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It was from 2010 to 2013 (maybe 2014?) so i recall some of them, one was one of the very first CLC coolers out so it was Corsair H50 or H70? one was a H100 (not for my own system) and i think the last was H80?
The others where the NZXT 120 and 240mm which i cant recall the names of (X41 and X61?) the last one was a Cooler Master Seidon 120v.

None of them lasted more then 6 months to a year at the most, two of them died within weeks thanks to the pump cutting out.
One or two had whine problems on the pump and one of them leaked which i caught before anything happend.

None of them where very quiet due to the fans and pumps and the temps where not really impressive.

Cant recall all the deails as its been a while.
So either i have had the worst luck ever or CLC AIO coolers are just rubbish.

6 models from 3 brands over 3-4 years and the result was the same in the end took them out and replaced them with air coolers.
Should be noted that only 3 out of the 6 was my own coolers the other 3 where for family members.

Gave all of the dead coolers to a friend who also has one or two dead CLC AIO coolers, so he has a whole box with like 7-8 CLC coolers that are all broken.
I dunno man, early adopters of a new tech arent always the most satisfied afterwards for this good reason.
Also you can't really judge a technology and all the models that use it because you were issued defective samples and maybe you kept them.
Do you recall how the NZXT series 'died' ?

Edit: you cant ise the brand raison neither as ALL AIOS ARE THE SAME !!! (\grudge models share mostly the same asatec pump, maybe different revs)
Also pls vote on my new thread, just the not defective ones pls
Edited by MadjinnSayan - 2/12/16 at 5:03am
 
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post #32 of 89
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Got my monitor in. I made the right choice. This thing is gorgeous.

as far as my GPU choice it came down to a single game, Fallout 4. It's been my primary game lately, and at 1440p the GTX 970 at stock clocks beats out the 290X. Mine can overclock to performance levels nearly on par with a stock GTX 980 in most games as well, so that was also a factor. The other factor was power consumption. The 290X uses a lot more juice compared to the GTX 970, and keeping that to a minimum will be beneficial I think.

Parts will be in later today! I'm gonna have some fun for sure. Gotta go to urgent care in a few hours and hopefully get a slip saying I can take the weekend off from work (jammed my toe, it's purple, i work 8hrs a day on my feet)

anyways, I went with an AIO for packaging reasons, and cost. A decent AIO cost less than an air cooler with similar/better performance, and with an AIO, i can just rip a hole in my case and bolt the radiator to it and not care, vs having to run with no side panel and freaking out every time I bump my case that the heatsink is gonna warp the board.

I have a little video for you, scroll down a bit wind it on the about 3 minutes in biggrin.gif

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Skylake-Codename-259478/Specials/Skylake-Gefaehrdung-durch-Kuehler-1180505/
post #33 of 89
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It was from 2010 to 2013 (maybe 2014?) so i recall some of them, one was one of the very first CLC coolers out so it was Corsair H50 or H70? one was a H100 (not for my own system) and i think the last was H80?
The others where the NZXT 120 and 240mm which i cant recall the names of (X41 and X61?) the last one was a Cooler Master Seidon 120v.

None of them lasted more then 6 months to a year at the most, two of them died within weeks thanks to the pump cutting out.
One or two had whine problems on the pump and one of them leaked which i caught before anything happend.

None of them where very quiet due to the fans and pumps and the temps where not really impressive.

Cant recall all the deails as its been a while.
So either i have had the worst luck ever or CLC AIO coolers are just rubbish.

6 models from 3 brands over 3-4 years and the result was the same in the end took them out and replaced them with air coolers.
Should be noted that only 3 out of the 6 was my own coolers the other 3 where for family members.

Gave all of the dead coolers to a friend who also has one or two dead CLC AIO coolers, so he has a whole box with like 7-8 CLC coolers that are all broken.

The untimely deaths are a bit unusual, but other than that you hit the nail on the head. If you (collective "you", not you specifically) are using a CLC because you like the look, fine. But don't try to justify it with crazy claims that they are quieter or perform better than air....because that simply isn't the case, and it has been shown time and time again, plus with CLC you get the privilege of paying substantially more to get similar performance.
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My friend with all the dead CLC coolers bought a Swiftech H220x after we talked about how rubbish all the dead CLC coolers where and he wanted to try something better.
Its much better quality pump it comes with and he had no problems with it, so i think the Swiftech coolers are pretty good at least compared to everything else we tried.

He was too lazy to fill it up with liquid after it ran out so he installed his old Phanteks TC14PE and the temps where not much higher which makes me think the whole AIO thing is just marketing hype.
But if i where to ever buy an AIO again it would be a Swiftech or maybe an EK once they got the leak problem sorted out.

As for all of the Cooler Master / Corsair / NZXT / Antec and god knows else´s CLC AIO coolers nope never going to touch one ever again.

This is all my personal experience so if you dont agree thats fine but dont dismiss it just because you dont like what experience i have.
Anyway enough of that.
Edited by shilka - 2/12/16 at 5:58am
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post #35 of 89
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My friend with all the dead CLC coolers bought a Swiftech H220x after we talked about how rubbish all the dead CLC coolers where and he wanted to try something better.
Its much better quality pump it comes with and he had no problems with it, so i think the Swiftech coolers are pretty good at least compared to everything else we tried.

He was too lazy to fill it up with liquid after it ran out so he installed his old Phanteks TC14PE and the temps where not much higher which makes me think the whole AIO thing is just marketing hype.
But if i where to ever buy an AIO again it would be a Swiftech or maybe an EK once they got the leak problem sorted out.

As for all of the Cooler Master / Corsair / NZXT / Antec and god knows else´s CLC AIO coolers no ever going to touch one ever again.

The Swiftech and EK pieces are a whole different topic. They are properly designed, and performance is as much a priority as profit (with profit seeming to be the only priority of CLCs). The Swiftech is also designed to be the basis for a small loop with easy expansion (the EK is, as well, it is just much harder to fill and bleed), so the comparison really isn't fair to the CLC....which is a disposable piece.
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pls answer the questions above ?
 
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I have a little video for you, scroll down a bit wind it on the about 3 minutes in biggrin.gif

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Skylake-Codename-259478/Specials/Skylake-Gefaehrdung-durch-Kuehler-1180505/

oh man that made me cringe haha. At least that takes care of that issue. Too bad the nice air coolers are too big for my case or tastes lol

also, as far as buying a GPU for one game, I don't play a whole ton of games. I play fallout 4, some F2P MMO's (that are mostly CPU limited rather than GPU limited) and a few racing games, etc.

The 970 was a good choice for me based off budget and performance.

also, that reminds me. The Fallout 4 1.3 patch breaks my game. Might be an issue with some mods or something, but I get an instant CTD when I try to load up a game (or even start a new game) Haven't tried diagnosing it much yet.
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pls answer the questions above ?
Pump died on 4 of them and one just has massive coil whine and the last one leaked which i caught right away before it killed anything.
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details specifically on the X41/X61 pls
no generalisation pls also
 
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details specifically on the X41/X61 pls
no generalisation pls also
I cant recall all of them but i am pretty sure the X61 was the one with whine and the X41 was one of those with a dead pump (might have been the other way around).
Cant be 100% sure as i have had to deal with 6 of those CLC coolers so i might be mixing them up.

Sory i honestly cant recall all of the details on all of them.
All i know is i have had enough and my recommendation is to avoid all of the CLC coolers like the bubonic plague based on my own experience.
Edited by shilka - 2/12/16 at 10:10am
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