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Get a xeon x5650/5660/5675,an used 290/x ,and better cooling

yeah, I just made another thread about cooling my rig,

but this xeon is really interesting. how far you think I could oc it with better cooling?
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the thing with my ram is that it is triple channel. I have 3x2gb and 3x4gb. even if I upgrade my cpu to a lga 1150 socket, I'll have to downgrade to 12gb if I'm to keep my ram. I could do 3x4gb and 1x2gb, but not sure how safe that is or even if it works, so even if I go lga 1150 i'd still have to upgrade my ram. i7 4790k performs a little better than i7 6700k, and it's cheaper, but lga 1150 is limited to ddr3, not sure if it's a good idea upgrading but staying ddr3 nowdays.
however, equivalent ddr4 is a bit cheaper than ddr3, so I'm not sure if ddr4 is a real upgrade. specially when i7-4970k outperforms and is $100 cheaper than i7-6700k. what you think?


@MadjinnSayan: I'm willing to spend up to $1000 maybe, but not planning on spending it all in a single gpu lol. and what do you mean upgrade my ram to a decent speed one? is 18gb ddr3 1600 that bad?

@neurotix: no I've never had a ssd, and that's why I plan to get one, I use many softwares that take a lot of time to load, and it would be a good upgrade for me, even if not that huge upgrade for gaming

If those 2GBs are doing fine with the 4GBs in your current system, then it will work with other systems that uses DDR3. My i7 Sandy system and my Phenom II system share rams handed down from my X58 system like yours. Haven't bought rams since.

You can use 2 of the 2GB ones and 2 of the 4GB ones. It should work. Heck you can even just use 2 of the 4GB ones.
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Are U for real OP ? lmao you have $1000 gaming upgrade budget in your hands and all you plan go for is a single 980 (or 970 ? or maybe a 950 who knows ?), a tiny ssd and watercool some stuff ?
Please, i honestly would just buy 2 980 ti if were in your position lol, the perf gain all cpu-limited/RAM limited would easily overcome another setup where, with the same money, you went for a single GPU a squeaky new skylake or kinda new devil canyin setup with some other 'gaming-meh' stuff
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yeah, I just made another thread about cooling my rig,

but this xeon is really interesting. how far you think I could oc it with better cooling?
it is similar to a westmere cpu ,most of the people can oc 4.4GHz or higher.and a 980x(westmere) can match an i7 2600K(SB) on newest games

Another option can be just hold for incoming video cards (H2 2016) they will be more power efficient and will perform better,but if your current gpu cant play with highest quality at a good framerate ,then check an used 7970 for less than 130,but a 290 is 25% faster and costs around 200-180usd used(or maybe less) and is currently rebranded as 390(with oc) which matches GTX 970 performance
Edited by PontiacGTX - 2/10/16 at 9:08am
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Are U for real OP ? lmao you have $1000 gaming upgrade budget in your hands and all you plan go for is a single 980 (or 970 ? or maybe a 950 who knows ?), a tiny ssd and watercool some stuff ?
Please, i honestly would just buy 2 980 ti if were in your position lol, the perf gain all cpu-limited/RAM limited would easily overcome another setup where, with the same money, you went for a single GPU a squeaky new skylake or kinda new devil canyin setup with some other 'gaming-meh' stuff

well I am serious. I'm not a hardcore gamer as I used to be, in fact I don't even have a desk nowdays, my pc sits under my TV, connected to it, and I play everything on it with an xbox 360 gamepad. I just happen to like high detailed graphics, and I'd like to keep running them on high settings with a good frame rate in the future.

maybe I could say screw it, I'll buy 2 gtx 980ti (wich I couldn't, because the cheapest I found was $630 with shipping) in fact from a different perspective it sounds like a good idea. but who knows, maybe tomorrow my old i7 or my ram or who knows what will become a bottleneck (in fact as of now, cooling and the lack of a ssd are big issues) so idk, it's a matter of balance, 2 980ti would be overkill for me, and I have these other computer issues to resolve.

and it's not like my mother gave me $1000 to spend in gaming, it's my money, that's my budget, and upgrading my pc is a priority, but the less I spend, the more I'll have left to do buy other stuff rolleyes.gif
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wich I couldn't, because the cheapest I found was $630 with shipping
dunno dude, refurbished maybe ? i wont do the searching.
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maybe tomorrow my old i7 or my ram or who knows what will become a bottleneck
I dont have a crystal ball sorry, i just stated my opinion.
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as of now, cooling and the lack of a ssd are big issues
Dunno man, i only felt you just talked about it like it would be feel good gimmicks, i didnt feel you insisted on these needs, i wouldnt have ranted a bit otherwisz lol.

Btw what 'other stuff' ? Didnt you feel $1000 was a pretty high upgrade budget for even an already high-end still kicking PC ?
 
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Well, I haven't seen anyone ask what you are doing with this system yet...

What are you planning to do with this system? I see you mentioned gaming, but what kind of gaming? What resolution are you running at? I would say you could probably get a great deal on purchasing some parted out components on Craigslist. I just built a computer for my girlfriend with an i5-2500, GTX 660, 120gb ssd, 500gb hdd, and 600w psu for about $225!
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I was actually going to ask for an advice on a gaming pc under $1000, but seeing some suggestions for that price, I'm not sure if I should upgrade to another computer, or just get a gpu and ssd.

what you guys think?

my current setup:

CPU intel i7 930
GPU zotac GTX 660
MOBO asus p6t
RAM g.skill 18gb ram ddr3 (3x2gb + 3x4gb)
PSU corsair tx650w
HDD 2x wd green caviar 1tb

thanks
I have to wonder if some replies made here have any merit. What do you use your system for. What is your case? Is cost of power to run the system a consideration? That's only a few basic questions that need answered before really informed suggestions can be made .. and there are more.
I'm using Skylake (6700K) plus 3x X58 systems; an i7 920, 980 and 980x chips. They are very good and powerful processors .. and as PontiacGTX said, in most systems easily upgraded to even more powerful 6 core Xeon processors. But unless you are using software that can make use of the extra core and threads don't bother. For me the biggest shortcoming of X58 is age related. New things like faster Sata, USB3, etc are often missing or poorly executed. The X58 platform is several generations old, and newer generations have many advantages. Another disadvantage is they are very power hungry, even without being overclocked. When overclocked it can be extreme.

But before we go any farther, please tell us what all you have (case) and you use your system. Without knowing it's uses it is impossible t say what the best path forward is. wink.gif
Edited by doyll - 2/11/16 at 8:28am
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I have to wonder if some replies made here have any merit. What do you use your system for. What is your case? Is cost of power to run the system a consideration? That's only a few basic questions that need answered before really informed suggestions can be made .. and there are more.
I'm using Skylake (6700K) plus 3x X58 systems; an i7 920, 980 and 980x chips. They are very good and powerful processors .. and as PontiacGTX said, in most systems easily upgraded to even more powerful 6 core Xeon processors. But unless you are using software that can make use of the extra core and threads don't bother. For me the biggest shortcoming of X58 is age related. New things like faster Sata, USB3, etc are often missing or poorly executed. The X58 platform is several generations old, and newer generations have many advantages. Another disadvantage is they are very power hungry, even without being overclocked. When overclocked it can be extreme.

But before we go any farther, please tell us what all you have (case) and you use your system. Without knowing it's uses it is impossible t say what the best path forward is. wink.gif

IMO this is an erroneous statement. Adding in a SSD is what I consider a QoL upgrade in that anyone and everyone who doesn't have a SSD can use one, even a crappier one. A SSD brings substantial read and write improvements over any HDD and reduced loading times are universally beneficial. Secondly, this is a gaming computer. With an i7 930, 18GB of DDR3 ram, and a GTX 660, the weak link is obviously the GPU. Upgrading an old GPU is the easiest way to improve gaming performance.
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