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I'm planning to upgrade from my i5-2500k build , my use is mostly gaming.
CPU: i7 6700k
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-UD3
Ram: Mushkin Enhanced Blackline Extreme 2400 V2 8GB

Are there any mainboards that's better in the same price range or worth paying extra for ?
Is it worth getting the Redline Mushkin(bus 3000) Ram? I don't know if higher bus will have any effect for gaming. The price difference between Backline and Redline is 18$.
Edited by Maou - 2/11/16 at 1:35am
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hi,
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my use is mostly gaming.
CPU: i7 6700k
do you really need the hyperthreading $100 price premium?
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Is it worth getting the Redline Mushkin(bus 3000) Ram? I don't know if higher bus will have any effect for gaming. The price difference between Backline and Redline is 18$.
dunno if higher than that still makes a diff, though i know frequency can make a big diff

soz, dunno for mobo
also what is your cpu cooler ?
Edited by MadjinnSayan - 2/11/16 at 12:41am
 
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Get 3000MHz RAM, not necessarily mushkins, other companies have their 3000MHz RAM listed at such low prices, after you go up fro 3000MHz prices shoot up.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-PC4-24000-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455179671&sr=8-1&keywords=3000MHz+DDR4

The first offering from this other link have them at 89$ for 16GB of DDR4 3000MHz directly from Amazon if you got Prime, you just can't beat that price for such a high performance High Quality sticks.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0134EW7G8/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Don't include taxes.
Edited by Dargonplay - 2/11/16 at 12:38am
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Thanks for the reply.
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hi,
do you really need the hyperthreading $100 price premium?

I want the cpu to be as much future proof as possible as i most likely will not upgrade again in a long time. Some games i play also benefit a bit from HT like GTA5, Total war so it's a plus.
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dunno if higher than that still makes a diff, though i know frequency can make a big diff

Nice find , looks like i will go for 3000Mhz Redline then.
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soz, dunno for mobo
also what is your cpu cooler ?

I forgot to inlcude it in my rig. Noctua NH-D14.

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Get 3000MHz RAM, not necessarily mushkins, other companies have their 3000MHz RAM listed at such low prices, after you go up fro 3000MHz prices shoot up.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-3000MHz-PC4-24000-Memory/dp/B0134EW7G8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455179671&sr=8-1&keywords=3000MHz+DDR4

The first offering from this other link have them at 89$ for 16GB of DDR4 3000MHz directly from Amazon if you got Prime, you just can't beat that price for such a high performance High Quality sticks.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0134EW7G8/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Don't include taxes.

Those prices, shame i don't live in US frown.gif
Mushkins and Corsair Ram are about the same price where i live (Vietnam), and Mushkins have 60 months warranty while Corsair only have 36 months.
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I want the cpu to be as much future proof as possible as i most likely will not upgrade again in a long time. Some games i play also benefit a bit from HT like GTA5, Total war so it's a plus.
Imo considering the recent generations of cpu didnt really experience some ground-breaking gainz, i may safely assume that a 'future proof' budget for a gaming rig should go for the GPU, (ie you don't put cash in the wheels if you think they would limit the motor you will upgrade but could have upgraded)
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I forgot to inlcude it in my rig. Noctua NH-D14.
have you already bought it ? If not consider comparing it with solutions that may be cheaper, more performant, quieter, IMO uglier, and less cumbersome

Imo too don't really choose the ram according to the warranty, RAM is mostly not targeted by high RMA/failure rates
Edited by MadjinnSayan - 2/11/16 at 2:02am
 
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Imo considering the recent generations of cpu didnt really experience some ground-breaking gainz, i may safely assume that a 'future proof' budget for a gaming rig should go for the GPU, (ie you don't put cash in the wheels if you think they would limit the motor you will upgrade but could have upgraded)
Well, i already have SLI 970 (I can't justify going any higher 980+ as the price is inflated much more in my country for the higher end cards).
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have you already bought it ? If not consider comparing it with solutions that may be cheaper, more performant, quieter, IMO uglier, and less cumbersome
Yes,it's from the build i'm using atm.
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Imo too don't really choose the ram according to the warranty, RAM is mostly not targeted by high RMA/failure rates
The only differences between those rams to me are warranty (price-wise and spec(3000-C15) they're the same ), so i have to weight it based on warranty.
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I would say upgrade your monitor first, sound second. From there if you still have some cash leftover, grab a used 2600k, 2700k, or 3770k. There's, in my opinion, zero reason to go from the 2500k to a 6700k, the performance increase, while decent, is nowhere near enough of a difference to be worth a full platform jump. Overclock your 2500k to 4.5GHz+ or get an 1155 i7 and clock it to 4.5GHz+ and be done.
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I would say upgrade your monitor first, sound second. From there if you still have some cash leftover, grab a used 2600k, 2700k, or 3770k. There's, in my opinion, zero reason to go from the 2500k to a 6700k, the performance increase, while decent, is nowhere near enough of a difference to be worth a full platform jump. Overclock your 2500k to 4.5GHz+ or get an 1155 i7 and clock it to 4.5GHz+ and be done.

My build is from 2011 and there's no warranty left, so i would like to have available cash for upgrade or buy replacements in case anything breaks. Also i can let my brother have my old main+ram+cpu so his rig gets an upgrade.
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Well, i already have SLI 970 (I can't justify going any higher 980+ as the price is inflated much more in my country for the higher end cards).
Yes,it's from the build i'm using atm.
The only differences between those rams to me are warranty (price-wise and spec(3000-C15) they're the same ), so i have to weight it based on warranty.

You know, we're at the verge at one of the most anticipated releases of our time regarding graphical hardware, we've been on 28nm for so long its downright amazing how much performance we'll be gaining by jumping right into 14nm, if Nvidia and AMD do things well we can see up to 2.5X performance of a 980Ti or a Fury X, which is amazing, HBM2 on top of it, HUGE latency improvements, better frame pacing, new Async hardware, just overall an impressive architecture.

If I were you I would buy an i7 5960X from Sillicon Lottery that would do at least 4.6GHz, this way you can choose between performance and latency by disabling or enabling Hyperthreading depending on what application you're using, also 8 cores with strong single threading performance its as future resistant as the concept goes, you might no change your CPU for the next decade or more, also since its a 5960X even with Hyperthreading disabled its such a powerful beast that will dwarf anything else no matter how much Hyperthreading you throw at it, I'd also re use any old video card just to wait 2 months for the release of these new monster Architectures, Polaris and Pascal, in these 2 months you surely saved some money which can allow you to buy the highest end card which should dwarf a 980Ti or Fury X today, it'd also be fully compatible with DirectX 12 finally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45muNhrrAUg
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I would say upgrade your monitor first, sound second. From there if you still have some cash leftover, grab a used 2600k, 2700k, or 3770k. There's, in my opinion, zero reason to go from the 2500k to a 6700k, the performance increase, while decent, is nowhere near enough of a difference to be worth a full platform jump. Overclock your 2500k to 4.5GHz+ or get an 1155 i7 and clock it to 4.5GHz+ and be done.

He's right you know, if you don't have a good monitor all the highest components are kind of wasted, you could do what I said above or buy an i7 5820K instead of a 5960X and buy a BenQ XL2730Z, I just made a review of that monitor if you're interested.
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