Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Originally Posted by Dargonplay
Well here's a fact, AMD have countless time stated they can't optimize anything for Gameworks titles during the development process, Nvidia is the only one who can and Nvidia doesn't let developers to add AMD's own code to optimize the game for Radeon Cards, AMD have to make these optimizations with their drivers instead of being released with the game, this means the game have to launch and after it is available to everyone AMD have to optimize their drivers for it. In all Gameworks titles AMD always loses miserably the performance war on early game but always catch up at late game, the thing is, for a marketing standpoint... Late game doesn't matter.
When a game comes out every Web Site benchmark the soul out of it, there are a few (Minor sites) that benchmarks the same game again months, even years after release, once the early benchmarks for Gameworks titles are out, AMD Reputations gets tainted for the remaining of that generation and people would always see it as the 2nd tier offering, even when they are in fact the best performing offering at the time (Late game), also when casual players looking to upgrade see these "Late game benchmarks" they often disregard them because they aren't coming from big sites like Techspot or Anandtech who only benchmark games when they're freshly out in the market.
After seeing Nvidia's record of business decision will you really say the above is far fetched? The tessellation Scandal, Hairworks Effects, Godrays, PhysX, Gameworks... They all have something in common, they hurt AMD more than they hurt nVidia, and they grant nVidia the performance crown when games are releasing, which in the end is all that matters for newcomers and people looking to upgrade who just do a few benchmark searches when deciding for a new video card.
This right here is what I'm talking about.
Well said. Even if AMD can optimize they have to spend more time and money to optimize Nvidia IP. Also I am much better to not have GameWork and have PhsyX like before.
no not really well said, all he's done is parrot fuddy's
huddy's claims; you know the same guy that said GWs was unavailable even though NV had a download page. the problem with AMD's performance on a games release is they never have drivers ready and you know this.
any reputable site will turn off proprietary tech with some, like [HC], turns them on only for a comparison.
if a site isn't benching correctly then don't go there!
my lord with all the yacking about hairworks in GW, you would think no one knows how to open the CCP, add TW3 exe to make a profile and turn down the tessellation to have less of a performance hit than maxwell!
oh wait, no they wouldn't if all they do is read huddy's FUD . . .
seriously. here is a game that is going to pummel every freaking green card on the planet and the red team chooses to whine, piss, moan and complain.