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Have you read about eDP? Do you even know what eDP is? Do you know how it works?
Have you read about adaptive sync in DP? Have you read how it works?

Regardless of your somewhat childish write and understanding, I did not mean stolen as they took actual something. They just took the eDP adaptive frequency feature from vesa, and suggested it to add to DP, and called it their own, like they found a new continent or something.

So they did not steal anything. Next time, before calling me childish, how about use the correct words for things.

You're the one who throws around big words in every AMD related topic, not me. So, call me what ever you wish, not that I really care.
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nvidia will be stalling async implementation for as long as it's possible until they launch volta,that I'm sure.

I'm sure you have inside information into nvidia decisions and choices, already reviewed pascal and know exactly if it is going to work or not, or whether software implementation of queue management via drivers is going to give nvidia less performance than AMD's implementation via hardware.

Or maybe not.
Since there are zero benchmarks of async outside of beta/alpha version games without any mature drivers, that argument is irrelevant until an actual async using game is being sold and we have actual performance from it.
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So they did not steal anything. Next time, before calling me childish, how about use the correct words for things.

You're the one who throws around big words in every AMD related topic, not me. So, call me what ever you wish, not that I really care.

Taking a tech already implemented, suggest said tech to another implementation, and calling it their own, yes, in my eyes, they "stole" it by calling it their own, claiming that they made "freesync" just for their suggestion to vesa.

And yes, you fixating no it, is childish in the end of the day. Because you do not read by the whole context, but fixate on a certain word and attack the whole post by that certain word, which is still pretty much correct.
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verb (used with object), stole, stolen, stealing.


1.

to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, especially secretly or by force:

I don't care what you call it. Unless you can make them re-do the dictionary you're still accusing them of stealing which they have not done.

I did read your post, from the start to finish. And most of the "points" your brought out are, lets say, false. One makes no sense to begin with. So, how about don't try to make an impression out of me which you came up with, like the notion that AMD stole something. If you keep on like that, call up VESA and let them sue AMD. Until then, use the right word. Copied.

Also you said AMD didn't do any work what so ever and just complained to VESA and that's why they got it, can you humor us a little more?
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Originally Posted by Defoler View Post

I'm sure you have inside information into nvidia decisions and choices, already reviewed pascal and know exactly if it is going to work or not, or whether software implementation of queue management via drivers is going to give nvidia less performance than AMD's implementation via hardware.

Or maybe not.
Since there are zero benchmarks of async outside of beta/alpha version games without any mature drivers, that argument is irrelevant until an actual async using game is being sold and we have actual performance from it.
I never meant it to be about software vs hardware performance,you failed to comprehend. I'm sure nvidia are thrilled for how much work they've got coming to implement async via software, rather than not use it at all.
Edited by Klocek001 - 2/14/16 at 2:11am
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Taking a tech already implemented, suggest said tech to another implementation, and calling it their own, yes, in my eyes, they "stole" it by calling it their own, claiming that they made "freesync" just for their suggestion to vesa.

And yes, you fixating no it, is childish in the end of the day. Because you do not read by the whole context, but fixate on a certain word and attack the whole post by that certain word, which is still pretty much correct.

If you want to water down the term stealing this much, then rejoice, the history of art and science is a history of thiefs.

And AMD definitely made Freesync. It's their implimentation of support for the adaptive standard they helped push on the side of standalone monitors. Freesync is not a general term for variable refresh rate tech without proprietary modules. It's just one implimentation of that tech, exactly like Gsync for laptops is. Same thing.

And you don't get a moral high horse for adding complexity to the procedure with an external module (vs the internal solution on 'Freesync for Games'-compatible AMD cards), by the way. The idea is what counts to me.
Edited by Tivan - 2/14/16 at 3:10am
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Mantle is dead.
Vulkan is alive only because someone else took the rains off AMD.
Freesync is not new. It was "stolen" from the already existing eDP.
Their GPUs place is great if losing market and money means a great place. The 300 series ended up being a bust, and the promised fiji and HBM as a "top end killer" ended up also being just a "meh" card. They are not marketing geniuses, and instead of attacking nvidia, they should concentrate on their own products.

Claims about polaris being strong, unless a crystal ball is involved, lets wait and see. I hope it does. AMD's track record is not great though.
And zen, has been promised for about 1.5 years now. it is only going to come out at the end of 2016. That is a long long time and many things can happen until then. The industry are not holding their breath right now.
so what you are saying is because vesa had a version of freesync as their own and then amd came and made one as also nvidia that means they stole it? man that logic is so cringeworthy:D
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If you want to water down the term stealing this much, then rejoice, the history of art and science is a history of thiefs.
end of this part of the discussion.
move on.
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so what you are saying is because vesa had a version of freesync as their own and then amd came and made one as also nvidia that means they stole it? man that logic is so cringeworthy:D

Nah you mean the whole post is cringe
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Nvidia told everyone that the 980ti is the first FULL supported DX12 card. Well, one of the features of DX12, Async Compute, is not natively supported by the 980Ti or any of Nvidia's cards for that matter so Nvidia falsely advertised........once again.


but they did said later that Nvidia hardware MIGHT NOT BE FULLY supporting DX12
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