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Hi, I am planning to build a raid 5 NAS.

Here is my list of parts so far:
Motherboard 69USD
CPU 45USD
HDD 120USD x4
Raid Card (Not sure. But maybe Dell PERC H310 147USD)

DDR3 RAM - Have
Case - Have
PSU - Have (Is 500w enough?)

Reason I choose that MB is the cheapest with dual LAN.

Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thank you
post #2 of 11
500W is way more than enough.

If I were to buy a card in that price point though I'd go with an LSI card, I personally use the 9211-8i but a lot of them should work just fine. The main reason I suggest that is if you chose to upgrade down the line or move from hardware raid to software raid and/or ZFS. The Dell cards are decent (some are good and some are just terrible) but even when they are often based around a similar card the Dell ones can be temperamental to flash software.

The processor should suffice depending what you plan on doing with it. Serving files will be more than sufficient.

What are you planning on doing with your server? What OS?
 
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What OS are you planning to use?

I am using the same CPU in my freeNAS box. It's good enough for almost everything but Blueray transcoding maxes it out in plex streams. I am swapping it out for a Xeon later.
Edited by Prophet4NO1 - 2/14/16 at 8:40pm
 
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I am planning either to use freeNAS or window server 2012 (or 2016 when it come out).
Edited by TLCH723 - 2/15/16 at 6:58am
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The biggest benefit from FreeNAS is ZFS instead of traditional RAID. But, you will need a server grade mobo to get a chipset that supports ECC memory. Look at the FreeNAS rig in my sig for an example. I am using the same CPU with 32 GB of ECC RAM.




And, as you can see, it uses all of it. ZFS is very memory intensive. Basic rule of thumb with FreeNAS and ZFS is 8GB min plus one GB for every TB of storage. For ideal performance at least. ZFS basically thinks all HDDs suck and does not rely on there own error checking. It also does a lot of caching in the RAM. This is why you really should use ECC. If a bit flips in RAM it can destroy your data. It's a low chance but high penalty situation . ZFS is better then RAID though. That being said, you don't want a RAID card in the machine. Either use the mobo in normal AHCI mode or use a dumb HBA card. ZFS wants direct communication and control of the drives.

As for the CPU, it works fine for most tasks. But 1080p transcode from MKV files I made from Bluerays takes all the CPU can give. Really needs more power for that. At least with plex. If just sending files around it should be fine.

Here is a lower spec version of my mobo, c222 chipset. Dual GB plus a 3rd port for IPMI. IPMI is kinda nice for a home network. You can load the FreeNAS ISO to a virtual CD-ROM from a console and remote run everything. Even BIOS is accessible remotely over IPMI. Pretty handy. My server has never had a screen or keyboard hooked to it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182819R




My mobo has the C226 chipset. Main reason I went with this is for 6 x 6GB SATA ports.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182822


I would ditch the Dell card and get some ECC and a server board. Then use FreeNAS/ZFS.
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ZFS can be memory intensive but is often exaggerated a bit, but overkill isn't a bad thing. The more memory you can throw at it, awesome, it will utilize whatever you can push into it. For most home consumer use though 16GB is fine, even for systems beyond 16TB. The 1GB of RAM per TB is a fairly good rule of thumb but not necessary. Many people like to throw a bunch of RAM and SSD to help with essentially caching (ZIL/L2ARC).

One of the nicer things about FreeNAS and ZFS in general is that it's hardware agnostic and extremely flexible. With traditional Hardware RAID if your controller dies you have to find that exact controller. With ZFS all of the information about the volume lives on the hard drives, so you could move it to a completely different system with wildly different hardware and all you would have to do is import it and you're off to the races. Most people use the standard SATA ports on the motherboard with others will use HBA (Host Bus Adapter) cards or RAID cards that have been flashed into IT mode (essentially converting it into an HBA card).
 
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Good points I forgot to mention. lol

As for the HBA cards. If buying new it makes more sense to get just HBA cards. Cheaper and no need to flash in most cases. But if you have a RAID card laying around, free is always better! Flash that puppy and stick it in.
 
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Also, Seagate is in the middle of a huge lawsuit due to the extremely high failure rates, I would personally get the WD greens or ideally reds if you want longevity of drives.
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Also, Seagate is in the middle of a huge lawsuit due to the extremely high failure rates, I would personally get the WD greens or ideally reds if you want longevity of drives.

Greens are not worth getting. And if you are purely looking at longevity, HGST and Toshiba are pretty much top of the charts. WD Reds are good. But I was able to get a better deal on Toshiba 7200RPM drives. The RAID support in firmware is meaningless in a ZFS array. Handy if us traditional RAID though. So Reds or other RAID/NAS drives are better for that situation.
 
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Greens are not worth getting. And if you are purely looking at longevity, HGST and Toshiba are pretty much top of the charts. WD Reds are good. But I was able to get a better deal on Toshiba 7200RPM drives. The RAID support in firmware is meaningless in a ZFS array. Handy if us traditional RAID though. So Reds or other RAID/NAS drives are better for that situation.

That's fair, the reason I said greens is that Newegg actually has had the Green 4TB drives for $109 a couple times this month, can't beat that price per GB. But for reliability sake I think the general consensus is do not but Seagate right now.
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