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Or Not. http://www.tweaktown.com/news/50308/8-hours-windows-10-sends-data-microsoft-ip-addresses-5500-times/index.html
Ironically, the original source is from Forbes as well.

Forbes: We post everything so that we can say we knew it first!
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Can't wait to see what happens when people realise that free means free for one year and they still have to pay for it.

No, that isn't true at all, and you should know that. In fact, I find it hard to believe you don't know that.
He does know that. He's been saying that in win10 threads for weeks, each time getting a corresponding reply correcting him. At this point, he's just saying that to have a reason to crap on win10.

No I didn't know and I've repped him for correcting me.

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Microsoft saw that Google, Facebook and Apple constantly spy on their users and nobody complains, while their stocks just grows rolleyes.gif. So they applied the same role model, but sadly they become the drop that spilled the glass or straw that broke the camel's back biggrin.gif
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Gonna ask the question though, this doesn't affect people in the Eu or it does, last time I checked the Eu Commission was still working on Safe Harbor 2 wtih the Us but then we have the DSM which includes that collecting data for people under the age of 14(or 16 I dont really remember) is illegal.

too bad we dont see any news from the EU here(there are plenty) and good ones as well
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Already too late for MS to make that decision. A lot of people I know have switched to Linux, or like myself have bought a Mac. I'll be selling my Windows PC pretty soon...

Are you aware that Mac collects even more data than Windows PC?
post #46 of 54
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it is completely free if you upgrade within the first year of w10 being released.
Also, yet another M$py thread. Not defending them but it is the only company I've seen get this much hate. I have yet to see Facebook, Apple, or Google get called out for spying to this extent.

Basically this. We focus so much on them and only them while we worship and offer our data freely to the others. Could it be that MS is not the "cool" kid anymore? We are so eager to hate them on every step they do big or small fail or win. I'd worry less about W10 atm. If I don't like something about W10 it is how unpolished it feels. It's like a "stable beta" of some sort. Inconsistency in design elements, menus and context menus, issues with scaling, Edge browser is still "IE" reskinned just faster but has tons of issues with many websites and crashes from times to times. File explorer is still wonky didn't really evolve since W7/Vista. (would like to see tabs in File Explorer), stock apps are too basic etc. Feels like the product needs some extra effort and work. It's barely an improvement over 8.1. and not huge improvement over 7. Feels like they rushed out the basics in order to release it sooner.
Edited by Anarion - 2/15/16 at 1:37am
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Yeah but, there's a key element to the situation - None of the information being "taken" is actually intrusive...It's not personal information.

They're analyzing your habits, your clicks and your nuances - Not your keystrokes, what you click and personal information...

They've been very open about that since day 1...You actually have nothing to worry about.

That's absurd. Are you saying they are only tracking my Click Frequency ? Unless they track WHAT I click, what good is it to them ? And what habits ? Weird. I know they can only track their own apps' usage.
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Just going to leave this here (Spybot Anti-Beacon): https://forums.spybot.info/downloads.php?id=58

Take that Microsoft!
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Doesn't really mean anything now, though, does it?

CISA makes it legal for any business sharing personal data with the government to so without the knowledge or consent of the user, regardless of privacy disclosures or ToS. Meanwhile, there's no stipulation about whether or not they still use data ascertained in secret for profit.

CISA was passed as part of a budget renewal bill that included everything from military spending to food stamps, while most of us were celebrating Christmas, so I guess it's not surprising to see how little people are aware of it.

It doesn't matter how many sliders or buttons exist; legal immunity has been granted to allow all of these corporations to lie over, and over, and over again about what they're collecting.

Personal data collection is generally viewed as benign; people don't feel that it can have any real bearing on our relationship with the government. People see no potential for it to be used as a means to quantify public views and proactively influence them, the way that the advertising industry does. People see no potential for the government to act malevolently, despite our nation being constructed around the idea that it inevitably will.

So when the world's most popular operating system gets an update to disable the features that make it profitable and compliant with government prerogatives that influence free-market viability, does it mean anything?

No, it means nothing. When a corporate entity can have their cake and eat it too, they're actually legally bound to do so because they have a legal responsibility to their shareholders.

Microsoft, along with others, have the option to appease their customers desire for privacy while simultaneously generating the data that they've built a business model around.

The most profitable option is pretty clear.

Lie, with legal immunity.
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Are you aware that Mac collects even more data than Windows PC?

How did you draw that conclusion? Unless you are talking about Windows 7 or previous operating systems from Microsoft which have far less telemetry add ons compared to Windows 8/8.1 or 10.
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