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Radiators with circular pipes instead of flat pipes?

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Not sure what they are called but they're radiators with circular pipes rather than flat pipes. Are they better than what most of us normally use? They are tons more expensive and trying to find out why :\

Example:
http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/05/15/aqua-computer-ams-copper-360mm-radiator-review/
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They are :

  • German made using hi-quality materials & finish :
    deutsche gründlichkeit- they are in a league of their own, nothing compares to it except maybe Watercool HTSF
  • Pretty clean inside
    most other radiators force you to do an extensive radiator shake & dance, these just need a flush (just to be sure) Some other brands are notorious for being gunked up inside. These are clean off the mark
  • Unfortunately not the best performing radiators on the market ,
    but if you are looking to build a low noise, slow fans system; they do hold their own in the low-fps, low noise segment
  • They are modular
    you should check out their site/shop and read some of the review/presentations by Shoggy http://shop.aquacomputer.de/index.php?cPath=7_31_838

Are they worth the money? If you want system that you can show off in your living room, then there are certainly an option - although the Airplex Gigant is even better suited to show off with smile.gif
If your want performance, and dont want to show your rads.. they are a tad expensive smile.gif

It all depends what you re looking for ... but if it is quality you are looking for, then Aquacomputer products should be your first call, Watercool the second. You can only truly appreciate the German quality build once you've held something -a block, a reservoir, etc- in one hand while holding the same from a different (cheap) brand in the other. smile.gif
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Most of my build is all Aquacomputer with 3 AMS Rads and I only needed to flush a couple times with Distilled water and I have had no problems since having the system up and running for a year almost. The stuff they make looks very nice and is well built.

Customer service is really good with them too.
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They are :
  • German made using hi-quality materials & finish :
    deutsche gründlichkeit- they are in a league of their own, nothing compares to it except maybe Watercool HTSF
  • Pretty clean inside
    most other radiators force you to do an extensive radiator shake & dance, these just need a flush (just to be sure) Some other brands are notorious for being gunked up inside. These are clean off the mark
  • Unfortunately not the best performing radiators on the market ,
    but if you are looking to build a low noise, slow fans system; they do hold their own in the low-fps, low noise segment
  • They are modular
    you should check out their site/shop and read some of the review/presentations by Shoggy http://shop.aquacomputer.de/index.php?cPath=7_31_838

The "not the best" means they are shadow behind but still among the best horses in this race. I have 2x360 mm copper in a side-by-side modular vertical arrangement inside my case since they were the only ones perfectly fitting. Any problem with "not the best cooling" is solved by push-pull 12-fan system with Aquaero. They are not cheap but quality is worth the price.
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I love the play on "Not the best" Op by not the best they mean they are one of the worst performing rads on the market.....

They are beautiful and as said if you run them in Push only with low speeds fans they they do move upo the charts a bit and are decent. However anything over 1000rpm on the fans they fall straight to the bottom and stay there. In P/P they are always at the bottom.

I dont really understand why you would ask this as you already linked the results?

Now is there a purpose for them yes, They are one of the most beautiful rads available, they can handle a lot of PSI (not really relevant in our case but ehh its there). What you need to decide is what your loop is for, is aesthetics key and performance semi important, or is that reversed?

Reality, The are the coolest looking and most likely most durable rads on the market, they also have the worst performance by quite a bit on all counts.

I do however have to LOL at some of things said in this thread, the logic is kinda skewed. It really doesn't matter if a rad weighs more or if it "feels better" it matters how it cools. Are you going to play baseball with it or are you going to use it for cooling.

Also OP for the record the New EK XE rad also has a removable shell made from steel, you could in theory make that chrome like an AMS for a price and some labor. It would then look good and still be the best performing rad on the market ATM.
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Originally Posted by RnRollie View Post

They are :
  • Unfortunately not the best performing radiators on the market ,
    but if you are looking to build a low noise, slow fans system; they do hold their own in the low-fps, low noise segment
  • They are modular
    you should check out their site/shop and read some of the review/presentations by Shoggy http://shop.aquacomputer.de/index.php?cPath=7_31_838

There are controversies surrounding their performance, one solid testing on which you are based and another solid testing telling opposite.

I have two Airplex modularity 360 copper side-by-side inside a dual width case where the air is sucked in from side vents, this is how it looks when the front cover of the case is removed, pushing fans are attached to the rads:

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There are controversies surrounding their performance, one solid testing on which you are based and another solid testing telling opposite.

I have two Airplex modularity 360 copper side-by-side inside a dual width case where the air is sucked in from side vents, this is how it looks when the front cover of the case is removed, pushing fans are attached to the rads:



Okay First off, I have quite a few issues with that review you linked, First of all being that Pureoverclock is no where near a trusted site. Secondly they provide 1 ambient temp for the entire course of the review. Well no, your room will vary 1-5c within hours of the day, unless you have a very very expensive temp controlled room thats just not accurate. There is a lot of issues in there testing methodology.

Anyway heres another test, funny it shows the same results as Strens.



The fan speeds are slightly different however they give a good comparison and the numbers are in line with Strens.
https://martinsliquidlab.wordpress.com/2012/05/12/aquacomputer-airplex-modularity-ams-copper-360-radiator/4/
Oh and that review is from a trusted source.

Now on to the next issue, both martin and pureoverclocks tests are from 2012, A lot has changed since with most of the rads on both of those lists getting revisions and some (the SR1) getting new lines built of them. However the RX and EX for instance are know on version 2(EX), 3(RX), and (3RS) ect. The AQ rads however have seen no such update.

Another words yes in 2012 they were decent rads, we are in 2016 however and Strens tests are from 2015, with new revisions.
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^Indeed for the Pascal build one will have to change the rads to the top ones. At present I have no complains about dual Aquacomputer 360 cooling my dual Titan X SLI running overclocked at 1505 MHz since there is so big overhead with those rads cooling just two Titans biggrin.gif.
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Yeah those Aquacomputer radiators have dreadful performance according to Stren's testing.

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Yeah those Aquacomputer radiators have dreadful performance according to Stren's testing.

Not that dreadful if you take performance with low rpm fans. Who wants to run rads with fans to the max?
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