Originally Posted by xTesla1856
Excuse me in advance for hijacking this thread but this is something I must say: To all the people claiming the 980Ti is this god-sent wondercard that is better and faster in every conceiveable way than a Titan X, stop. It isn't and it never will be. Stop fooling yourself and everyone else. The 980Ti is an AMAZING card for the price, it really is. I even owned one.
But what bothers me is that ever since it came out, people have been coming up with new ways and excuses to bash and downtalk the Titan X, as if there was any personal gain from doing this. This fact is also represented by many reviewers out there, who didn't even bother overclocking the Titan X or adjusting the fan curve. As a result, the general consensus was that the Titan "generally boosts to about 1200mhZ and that it runs at 84°C". Meanwhile the fan never goes above 35% and not a single slider in AB was touched. Now compare that to reviews of the 980Ti, where cards were overclocked to hell and back, both from manufacturers and reviewers and you get a scenario where the 980Ti beats the Titan in almost every game. How is this fair though?
For example: My own Titans will do 1440mhZ core game stable at 1200mV and 3800mhZ memory clock. Both cards are air cooled and the fans don't go above 90%. Max temps on the top card are 79/80°C. Without SLI, both cards achieve an easy 1500 core - ON AIR. So to claim, the Titan X is any worse than a 980Ti, is completely ridiculous and false. Clock for clock and with actual tinkering, (fan curves, etc) the Titan X beats the 980Ti every single time. That's what us enthusiasts should be all about, tinkering and finding the absolute most performance in our precious hardware, not sticking the fans to 35% and calling it a hot running card.
Also, in regards to VRAM: Earlier today, I was playing GTA V and at 5760x1080 with max settings and 2x MSAA (not 8x, but only 2x) the usage went anywhere from 7.5GB to around 11GB. So to claim that the 12GB VRAM on the Titan X is a gimmick or overkill is again, ridiculous and false. As time marches on, those 12GB will come in very handy and then, a lot of people on 970's and 980's will cry about "bad games and crap optimization".
But what is still absolutely true is the high admission price of the Titan X and the sheer value propositoin of the 980Ti. That cannot be argued away.
This is not a personal attack or critique towards anyone but rather a general sentiment. If however I violated any forum terms, then please mods, take the post down.
Clock for clock and assuming no throttling of course the Titan X will beat 980 Ti. Those extra 256 shaders aren't there for nothing. That said, the reference blower on the Titan X is
loud, and even with the fan up to 90% you're still hitting almost 80C. Any good custom 980 Ti could easily run 5-10C cooler with less noise, which is part of where the "980 Ti overclocks" better statement comes from. Then consider the fact that Titan X is reference PCB only, and those 6 phases will only go so far, especially if you're pulling close to 400W under load. Even though Maxwell doesn't voltage scale worth a damn on air/water, having a beefier power circuitry is always a bonus when you push your cards to the limit and start pulling 350W+.
Just to give you an idea. my 980 Ti running 1530/7800 @ 1.23V pulls on average 350W in BF4, and this is with the card under water on an overkill custom loop. On air it pulls 10% more power since the GPU runs much hotter and has higher current leakage. That's going to put a lot of strain on those VRM mosfets, and they better have good cooling or the mosfets themselves are going to throttle and kill your overclock. Which reminds me, the reference nVidia blower doesn't to a great job at cooling those mosfets, so if you overvolt while you overclock, you might start getting limited by those mosfets instead.
As for vram, well it's important to distinguish between games caching as much as possible, vs actually needing it. 3x 1080p surround is still only 75% the pixels of 4K, and so far I haven't heard anyone complaining about the 980 Ti running out of vram playing GTA V at 4K.Edited by magnek - 2/13/16 at 5:09pm