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Really the only people that got more than that in my recent memory were the OG Titan Owners. Those folks got some mileage...I guess I did too about that time, I was on 7970s that had a fine run.

Kepler Titan was pretty good, but nothing compared to the 7970. Tahiti looked very avg against 680 but in retrospect...the initial GCN has aged amazingly.
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Also, in regards to VRAM: Earlier today, I was playing GTA V and at 5760x1080 with max settings and 2x MSAA (not 8x, but only 2x) the usage went anywhere from 7.5GB to around 11GB. So to claim that the 12GB VRAM on the Titan X is a gimmick or overkill is again, ridiculous and false. As time marches on, those 12GB will come in very handy and then, a lot of people on 970's and 980's will cry about "bad games and crap optimization".

if you believe 3x1080p 2xMSAA requires 12GB VRAM, it may appear you have more cash than brains.

Please understand what's reported is simply cached and does not equate to the frame buffer being utilized.

I'm sorry that your anecdote did not work in your favour. Please don't take this as a personal attack, if I dropped $2K on GPUs I would be trying to defend my investment too. Unless you ran 980Ti SLI with the same controlled settings...your post doesn't help your case.

By the time games actually utilize 12GB in FHD 2D Surround...Titan X SLI will be 8800 Ultras by then...much respected but more flair than substance.

Any half decent OCN'ers will be able to tell bad optimization from being VRAM-bounded.
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post #252 of 457
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What he said wasn't wrong but also wasn't quite right.

Freesync has a range like 35-90 hz depending on the monitor. When it goes below that then freesync doesn't work anymore.

There is a good chance you didn't notice if it did happen to you.

 

Well...it is SUPPOSED to work at sub monitor-min-refresh (using frame doubling/tripling/etc.)... but has been so bugged that it is effectively not useable for many (but that is primarily due to the fact that the Crimson release fell completely flat on its face in terms of reliability. The best AMD driver right now is a beta).  But @flopper , I've had the experience of using both GSync and FreeSync monitors (even after Crimson), and it is in my honest opinion that FreeSync just isn't as smooth at sub panel-min refresh rates. Even with the Crimson update bringing sub panel-min logic. Overall, it is a somewhat less polished experience than GSync.

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I have no idea if i want titan this time, Provided the GTX 1080 or whatever is about %25 faster than titan X the new titan would need to be at least 30% faster than that, The original Titan was crazy because it was released before the 600 series, that it beat entirely yet you could own the card like 4 months earlier than that or so
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The original Titan was crazy because it was released before the 600 serieso

I'm sure you mean the 700 series? tongue.gif
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post #255 of 457
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Excuse me in advance for hijacking this thread but this is something I must say: To all the people claiming the 980Ti is this god-sent wondercard that is better and faster in every conceiveable way than a Titan X, stop. It isn't and it never will be. Stop fooling yourself and everyone else. The 980Ti is an AMAZING card for the price, it really is. I even owned one.

But what bothers me is that ever since it came out, people have been coming up with new ways and excuses to bash and downtalk the Titan X, as if there was any personal gain from doing this. This fact is also represented by many reviewers out there, who didn't even bother overclocking the Titan X or adjusting the fan curve. As a result, the general consensus was that the Titan "generally boosts to about 1200mhZ and that it runs at 84°C". Meanwhile the fan never goes above 35% and not a single slider in AB was touched. Now compare that to reviews of the 980Ti, where cards were overclocked to hell and back, both from manufacturers and reviewers and you get a scenario where the 980Ti beats the Titan in almost every game. How is this fair though?

For example: My own Titans will do 1440mhZ core game stable at 1200mV and 3800mhZ memory clock. Both cards are air cooled and the fans don't go above 90%. Max temps on the top card are 79/80°C. Without SLI, both cards achieve an easy 1500 core - ON AIR. So to claim, the Titan X is any worse than a 980Ti, is completely ridiculous and false. Clock for clock and with actual tinkering, (fan curves, etc) the Titan X beats the 980Ti every single time. That's what us enthusiasts should be all about, tinkering and finding the absolute most performance in our precious hardware, not sticking the fans to 35% and calling it a hot running card.

Also, in regards to VRAM: Earlier today, I was playing GTA V and at 5760x1080 with max settings and 2x MSAA (not 8x, but only 2x) the usage went anywhere from 7.5GB to around 11GB. So to claim that the 12GB VRAM on the Titan X is a gimmick or overkill is again, ridiculous and false. As time marches on, those 12GB will come in very handy and then, a lot of people on 970's and 980's will cry about "bad games and crap optimization".
But what is still absolutely true is the high admission price of the Titan X and the sheer value propositoin of the 980Ti. That cannot be argued away.

This is not a personal attack or critique towards anyone but rather a general sentiment. If however I violated any forum terms, then please mods, take the post down.
Review sites just need to show both stock AND OC results. I am talking reference cards, anything else is just misleading in my eyes. also, whomever think that the 980Ti is faster/more powerful card than the TX, clock for clock, is just trolling, or, misinformed....
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Ok, so first the GP104 ? Aka. 980 replacement ? Hahaha. They are sticking with the same scenario. Small pascal, then big pascal...

This means that either AMD will bring the same thing, small polaris to match GP104, then big polaris. OR, nvidia doesnt need to release the big pascal first, because amd is again, not much of a threat smile.gif) So lame if its this way....amd really needs to make some money...

LE: And yeah, probably even the GP104 will use 6-8gb vram of ddr5 or ddr5x, hbm2 is still expensive. And meaning that GP104 is a small chip they need to keep the price low, and put alot of vram.
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post #257 of 457
hoping for a 960ti on pascal architecture. Like the 750ti was the first taster of Maxwell and still often performs in heat, power and performance above its price point. A sub $200 760ti with 50W less power draw and 970 performance on stock clocks ( 970ti will push the gap further so its possible ). A 4gb version would be a perfect 1080p / mostly 1440p card and work really well in small form factor systems.
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To all the folks saying Freesync is better than G-Sync: The fact that Freesync falls flat on it's face when the framerate goes below 40fps is a deal breaker. Granted you shouldn't be going in that range especially with high end hardware, but minimum frame rates will occasionally dip below 40, that short time it does if you're on a freesync display, the experience is jarring. Meanwhile G-Sync takes steps to ensure the experience is as smooth as possible below 40fps.

Watch this video and learn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkrJU5d2RfA
FreeSync technology has a range of 9Hz to 240Hz. That monitor manufacturers choose to support another range is not a limit of the technology.
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FreeSync technology has a range of 9Hz to 240Hz. That monitor manufacturers choose to support another range is not a limit of the technology.
it's no consolation for those who runn 144hz monitors but can't use freesync over 90 fps.
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For me getting a 144hz 1440p display or 4K 100Hz or whatever they will be, SLI with GP104 is my only option.

There is no freaking way Im waiting til 2017 for GP100.
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