Originally Posted by iLeakStuff
What does AIB 980Ti have to do with this? You will get AIB GTX 1070s too which will be faster than reference.
Your point is kinda moot
No, your point (trying to compare to the Titan X for value) is moot. Even the reference 980 Tis are within single-digit % performance of the reference Titan X due to a nearly full GM200 chip and slightly higher sustained boost clocks.
The point of AIB 980 Tis AND reference 980 Tis in the absence of AIB Titan Xs is to show a $350 "1070" at Titan X performance isn't as huge of a deal as you people seem to think it is. The 980 Ti's already there and already shaved $350 off the price. What's another $300? The Titan X isn't some standard to beat/match, that's already been done.
Originally Posted by Mhill2029
Meh, you can overclock Titan X's you know. I'd rather have more cuda core and vram than a fast core clock.
Regarding the OP, that is lot further away than i would have thought. So much for the wait for Pascal kids lol
9% more shaders..., with a significantly worse reference cooler that simply won't allow the Titan X to sustain the same boost clocks and therefore renders even its miniscule theoretical advantages down to nearly or outright nothing.
If you want to gain the advantage of those 9% more shaders, you'll need to invest further into custom cooling. The point stands, the Titan X's performance or better (depending on how much a consistently-boosting, quieter, cooler GM200 means to you) already exists for $650 and that's a fact.
The VRAM is irrelevant not just relative to the 980 Ti except in the most stringent of multi-GPU high-res cases, but is irrelevant to a matching 1070 because GP104 certainly won't have more than 8 GBs of GDDR5X.
Originally Posted by xxdarkreap3rxx
Because custom PCB matters so much for overclocking Maxwell on air or even water
No, but a custom cooler does matter for a 250-300w+ burning flagship GPU to retain its overclocked clocks. Blower designs are wholly inadequate in comparison. The Titan X defense is besides the point; the 980 Ti's GM200 is nearly whole and it has models that out of the box beat the Titan X and, once both are overclocked, still match it with cooler/quieter operation to boot.
Unless you invest another $80-$100+ more in custom Titan X cooling, in which case you would have sub-10% more performance in purely shader-bound scenarios at best.Edited by Serandur - 2/12/16 at 11:50am