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does the shape ,size , dimension exactly the same as steelseries sensei?
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They are pretty much identical, other than the right side mouse buttons.
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Originally Posted by DreamMachines View Post

Hi, Yes you can say we are being pedantic. There is like microseconds of smoothing. Please, everyone do not worry. It is set the same as DM1 Pro for smoothing and we never had any complaints. We just felt it wasn't correct to say it is completely off. I hope this clears up everything.

The main reason we're calling for the 3360 is because it provides no smoothing unlike the 3310. Otherwise, what's the point, just stick with the 3310...If you're saying that it's the same level of smoothing as the older sensor, why would I want to buy the new mouse??
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The main reason we're calling for the 3360 is because it provides no smoothing unlike the 3310. Otherwise, what's the point, just stick with the 3310...If you're saying that it's the same level of smoothing as the older sensor, why would I want to buy the new mouse??

THIS. The Nixeus rep is also dodging the smoothing question. TBH the 3310 is perfectly fine if not for the smoothing. I don't mind the srav, the smoothing is what makes it unusable for me. 0 smoothing is basically one of the bigger reasons for everyones interest in the 3360.
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THIS. The Nixeus rep is also dodging the smoothing question. TBH the 3310 is perfectly fine if not for the smoothing. I don't mind the srav, the smoothing is what makes it unusable for me. 0 smoothing is basically one of the bigger reasons for everyones interest in the 3360.

He answered the question about smoothing. He claimed it is microseconds. If you care about microseconds you probably are one of the persons that would play the logitech g900 with cable because of the 1 ms extra delay in wireless mode.

Smoothing is really kinda big deal on 3310 and I mostly end up using a 3360 mouse. So yes, get a 3360/6 mouse when you want to reduce smoothing.
post #846 of 908
Anyone knows what exactly are these mouse feet??This is a picture from the review and i want to use a similar setup to reduce the LOD.


Looks like hotline games competition but its 0.6mm or 0.28mm or something else? tongue.gif
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@unplayed namer :

Isn't that what I just said :S

People are looking forward to 3360 mice, in part because there should ideally be 0 smoothing.

Yes he did say it's a few microseconds and that he is being pedantic but the problem with that claim is that the 3360's fps is generally b/w 4000 and 6000 for normal movements (some post by qsxcv, dont remember where, numbers are approx not exact). So even if the smoothing makes the mouse delay reports by 3 or 4 frames, thats still close to 1ms. The claim just looks weird when he says its microseconds. Coz when u delay by even 1 frame its 200ish microseconds.

Also the dm1 pro s page says :
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SMOOTHING - Close to off. This is another feature that helps “smooth” your movement to disguise any lag on the mouse sensor.

and that is just not what smoothing does .. that is probably why everyones looking for further clarification


@novagod : Hotline Games Logitech M215 feet or their 1.1/3.0 feet

http://www.itaktech.com/collections/hotline-games-mouse-feet/products/hotline-games-ie-mouse-feet-2014-edition
http://www.itaktech.com/products/hotline-games-logitech-m215-mouse-feet-2014-edition
Edited by roz133 - 7/14/16 at 1:54pm
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@roz133 thanks, looks like IM 3.0 to me and 0.6mm thickness judging from the picture. thumb.gif
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@unplayed namer :

I So even if the smoothing makes the mouse delay reports by 3 or 4 frames, thats still close to 1ms. The claim just looks weird when he says its microseconds. Coz when u delay by even 1 frame its 200ish microseconds.

as far as my math goes having a delay of some microseconds wont delay 3 or 4 frames. not even one frame. a microsecond is one millionth of a second. So given you have a 144hz monitor, you get 144 pics per second. Means 1000ms/144 = 7 ms ( round about).

New frame every 7 ms. The smoothing is 0.05 ms maybe. I dont see that anything could go wrong here.
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as far as my math goes having a delay of some microseconds wont delay 3 or 4 frames. not even one frame. a microsecond is one millionth of a second. So given you have a 144hz monitor, you get 144 pics per second. Means 1000ms/144 = 7 ms ( round about).

New frame every 7 ms. The smoothing is 0.05 ms maybe. I dont see that anything could go wrong here.
I believe he's talking about the framerate of the sensor.
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