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The real question is, is there any company in the vape industry that has enough market share or profit to afford such a thing? Maybe Blu? Or RJR with Vuse? But yeah, if RJR did a study, who would believe the results?

There's also a clinical trial that's currently recruiting in SF "Clinical Pharmacology of Electronic Cigarettes" started in June 2015 but not expected to finish until some time in 2018:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02470754
Who would believe a research funded by vape company that got so big that it can fund such research?
Who's to say that this SF research won't be encouraged to say tobacco is better than ecig by some good folks?

I'm kinda feeling great that I'm so disconnected from all of this. I've no idea who to believe.
As a vaper I hear this a lot: Wow, didn't you hear that vaping is x10 worse than cigarettes?!
Sometimes from coughing panting people... smelly too.

All I do is try to get one thought stuck in my head. 3 years is enough, need to get rid of vaping too. $60/mo saved means new GPU every year! smile.gif
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Anyone that says vaping is ten times worse than cigarettes is either insane or works for a tobacco company
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Wondered how long it would be before they found something regarding E-Cigs. Although what does puzzle me is those people that have never smoked in their lives and use E-Cigs because it's a trendy. Morons...
 
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Personally, I just try to avoid breathing anything that isn't air.
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Who would believe a research funded by vape company that got so big that it can fund such research?
Who's to say that this SF research won't be encouraged to say tobacco is better than ecig by some good folks?

I'm kinda feeling great that I'm so disconnected from all of this. I've no idea who to believe.
As a vaper I hear this a lot: Wow, didn't you hear that vaping is x10 worse than cigarettes?!
Sometimes from coughing panting people... smelly too.

All I do is try to get one thought stuck in my head. 3 years is enough, need to get rid of vaping too. $60/mo saved means new GPU every year! smile.gif

All valid points... there is so little research that you can't really say either way. I can say that I vape a lot less than I used to smoke. One or two small hits is enough to push away the urge to light up for a couple of hours. The longer I can go without taking a hit, the more likely I'll be able to eventually stop using it as a crutch. That's all I'm hoping for. I'm not a big cloud guy and I'm not doing it for the lulz.
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Wasn't there an article a while ago about vape containing some absurd amount of more tar or nicotine (Sorry not a smoker don't know the correct terms lol) than a cigarette, or was that a fallacy. While I'm glad I see a lot less people smoking now then when I did growing up, it's ultimatley your decision. You can do whatever you want, just don't blow it on me biggrin.gif
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This. There's no point to it.

The same can be said for many things. Also, your comment was pointless.
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All valid points... there is so little research that you can't really say either way. I can say that I vape a lot less than I used to smoke. One or two small hits is enough to push away the urge to light up for a couple of hours. The longer I can go without taking a hit, the more likely I'll be able to eventually stop using it as a crutch. That's all I'm hoping for. I'm not a big cloud guy and I'm not doing it for the lulz.
I honestly want to congratulate you!
I'm a heavy vaper frown.gif Much heavier than I was smoking imo. It's hard to compare vs smoking, but that's the feeling I get sometimes simply because I don't need to go out... all day in front of pc... with a mod in hand... you see where this is going smile.gif
There's no disgust feeling like when you're chain smoking. I don't get "fed up" with it and can vape non-stop. Plus some liquids are so damn tasty... so that's my current issue that I plan to overcome. And it became real issue on par with smoking.


I think those who are "Big cloud" guys are ruining it for everyone. Those that do that in public. I guess it stuck in my head that it's only means to stop smoking and they are thinking something else.
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Wasn't there an article a while ago about vape containing some absurd amount of more tar or nicotine (Sorry not a smoker don't know the correct terms lol) than a cigarette, or was that a fallacy. While I'm glad I see a lot less people smoking now then when I did growing up, it's ultimatley your decision. You can do whatever you want, just don't blow it on me biggrin.gif

No tar , they do contain nicotine though

Nicotine is the drug you get addicted too , tar is the very bad part of cigarettes. Nicotine is more or less harmless (apart from the addiction)
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My weezing and coughing up oysters stopped after the first month of tar cough from quitting cigs. My blood pressure went down also. Vaping is not as bad as cigs from personal experiance. Dont forget broke goverments need to tax "dangerious" stuff.
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