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It should be noted that this is a chemical issue with the juice itself, and not a byproduct of the technology. Different materials being vaped yield very different results. A lot more than just liquid nicotine is being legally vaped out there, and this study only shows the effects of typical high PG nicotine juice.
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One grain of salt, please.
This thread and the post you've replied to refer to vaping, not smoking. It's as much of a pointless habit as overclocking is - just because you don't like it doesn't make it pointless. The whole point of vaping, at least in origin, is to help people stop smoking or receive their nicotine in a healthier manner. Chew puts the risks solely in the users hand - I think people like you can appreciate that.

Smoking/Vaping, they are both not healthy. Vaping is just more healthy than Smoking, doesn't mean it is harmless. And no Overclocking will not introduce harmful chemicals into your body.


While Vaping does help smokers quit, it has also opened up a entirely new market. In which Teens and neckbeards have overly accepted. Sorry, but I know people that never smoked that have picked up Vap Pens. Just because they think it is cool. Now they are borderline addicted to it, and have to take it everywhere they go.

But if the user wants to follow the rest of the loosers that gave into smoking, than so be it. But there is nothing cool about smoking. Its a joke to the modern work. wink.gif And should be treated as such.
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Next week we will see this debunked, and ironically comes down to who funded the science

Science is forever changing, but it's the closest thing to the truth.
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I smoked for 12 years and one day, said enough is enough and never touched another one. Vaping may help people quit smoking but in the end, youre just trading one vice for another.
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I wonder if this finding could be turned into a positive. A new treatment for allergy sufferers! biggrin.gif
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Smoked cigs for 15+ years and switched to vaping . True neither is good for you but the point for me was harm reduction .
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I doubt actual cigs don't too, it's pretty much similar compounds that are inhaled.
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Smoking/Vaping, they are both not healthy. Vaping is just more healthy than Smoking, doesn't mean it is harmless. And no Overclocking will not introduce harmful chemicals into your body.


While Vaping does help smokers quit, it has also opened up a entirely new market. In which Teens and neckbeards have overly accepted. Sorry, but I know people that never smoked that have picked up Vap Pens. Just because they think it is cool. Now they are borderline addicted to it, and have to take it everywhere they go.

But if the user wants to follow the rest of the loosers that gave into smoking, than so be it. But there is nothing cool about smoking. Its a joke to the modern work. wink.gif And should be treated as such.

It dosent matter if overclocking is harmless or not, to some it's 100% usless and a waste of time just as you think vaping is a waste or a "joke"

You are 100% ignorant. Sure there are some people who hopped onto the vaping bandwagon just like every fad but classifying vapers as "joke" or a "waste" is a idiotic statement. I even got my friend into vaping causing him to quit smoking. A month after he quit smoking he told me he could breath better, run longer, inhale greater, and just felt better in general. For that simple reason I am grateful. since then I converted two other friends who smoked cigs and they said the same thing as my first friend.


I am one of those "loosers" you speak of, I never smoked a cig in my life, I started vaping in 2013 before it became mainstream, almost no heard of it and hardly any shops were open. Now before you call me a hipster it started at a little car show, i knew some people at the show and they told me to taste this vape. I never heard of vaping before that, but as soon as i took a hit i fell in love with the flavors. I vape for the taste and only for that, holding a phone to your head causes radiation but you still see everyone doing it, nothing is safe so pick your poison and keep to yourself. I worked at a vape shop for almost a year, when I first started I was surprised to see so many people trying to quit smoking. Some were 2-3 pack smokers. As the days went by I would see these people come into the shop more often, saying how much better they felt and even talking to the new people who would come in and share stories.
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I don't smoke but i fully support peoples freedom to smoke. I don't call them idiots or make fun of them. People who want to hate on vapers and smokers by insulting their intelligence need to consider, there are extremely smart people who smoke/vap. I find it humorous how much hate for smokers and vaping but its totally okay to smoke pot.
Smoking isn't just a thing cause it's cool, it's also way for people to calm nerves or relax. Just cause you don't like it doesn't give you a right to tell them what to do. I bet those here taking shots at people who vap/smoke have their own bad destructive habits. Stop bullying people because you think your self righteous and smarter. How many people have died from second hand smoking that can be proven?

It amazes me all people have time to do nowadays is judge others and want to take away their freedoms.
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Science is forever changing, but it's the closest thing to the truth.
How do we know? They dont state what flavor is used nor what method they used to create the flavor. Not to long ago there was a study that said vaping produces the same amount of carcinogens as cigs. However the way they were testing it was in no way anyone would vape. They used a VERY old and outdated atomizer while throwing a ton of volts into it. If you would run the volts they did you would burn the cotton and get a horrible taste.
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