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It's one looooong generation that gives even the 7970 to 290X wait a run for it's money, but people still think to think of them separately for some reason. rolleyes.gif

That's marketing for ya.
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Irrelevant. They are the same generation of card. They use the exact same arch, the same node, and the same features. The 780ti is a 680 with scaled up core count and bus/ram. Nothing more. There was no innovation, and no change.

680 Launch date: March 2012

Titan Launch date: Febuary 2013

Buuuut... Per the Titan Review, GK110 was first introduced at GTC 2012... In May 2012
So ya, they announced the big boy of the generation just two months after the 680 arrived.

It's one looooong generation that gives even the 7970 to 290X wait a run for it's money, but people still think to think of them separately for some reason. rolleyes.gif

EDIT for derpy mistake.

So essentially the initial comment of "never" was inaccurate. It was the "high end" part for a brief amount of time, 2 months b4 the announcement and/or 11 months between launches.
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I wasn't saying to buy a 950 for 1440p. I said that with the way a 950 can perform at 1440p, a $150 range AMD GPU with the performance of a 380 should be more then enough for 1080p.

 

I think that this point, with FreeSync added into the mix (all we need are 30-75Hz monitor ranges for 1080p), might be what gives AMD a leg up on NVIDIA for a little while. The combination of a mid-range GPU with VRR at 1080p gives you playability even at maxed out settings, something that I know a lot of people have wanted for a while.

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So essentially the initial comment of "never" was inaccurate. It was the "high end" part for a brief amount of time, 2 months b4 the announcement and/or 11 months between launches.

Not really, it was the X60 of its generation. The performance jump allowed it to outperform the last generations x80 card and NV said... "Why sell this as the 660 when we can sell it as a 680 and charge double?"

GPU prices jumped $100-$200 that generation if you dont remember.
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Not really, it was the X60 of its generation. The performance jump allowed it to outperform the last generations x80 card and NV said... "Why sell this as the 660 when we can sell it as a 680 and charge double?"

GPU prices jumped $100-$200 that generation if you dont remember.

But if we go by that, then any rehashes cannot be high-end" until the last iteration....For example the 7970 couldn't be b/c it was rehashed with the ghz edition then again with the 280x and again with the 380x and by that time the next gen was out and thus fueling a never ending cycle to where no card is "high-end".
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When product names change and becomes misleading, tracking die size are a way to combat that. You have to compensate a bit for efficiency and memory and quality, but you always have to do that. 

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I think that this point, with FreeSync added into the mix (all we need are 30-75Hz monitor ranges for 1080p), might be what gives AMD a leg up on NVIDIA for a little while. The combination of a mid-range GPU with VRR at 1080p gives you playability even at maxed out settings, something that I know a lot of people have wanted for a while.

I can say from personal experience that Gsync is really nice to have. After experiencing my 1440p Gsync on my 950, and this 4k tv on my 980 ti I'd pay an extra for Gsync added to the tv. Not dealing with screen tearing, Normal Vsync, Triple buffering, or adaptive is worth it in a case like mine. Running a 4k screen off of a single GTX 980 ti.

VRR can make your GPU hit heavier then its weight with a lot less effort on your part.

If I weren't using a Gsync monitor with that 950 I'd have to rely on a mix of Triple buffering, and Adaptive Vsync. Triple buffering adds too much input lag for my likening in twitch type games. Adaptive Vsync only works well if you spend most of your time above the monitors refresh rate.
     
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What's crazy about it? I posted picture proof. Short of having you guys over here to test it out not sure what to say.

Here's a video of Dying Light... Recorded on my cheap Kodak camera. Kind of gets the point.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Running this 950 at 1440p is very possible with acceptable performance and visuals. If you were just into mmo's, mobo's, or, older games then it could easily be a 1440p gpu.

Good lord. I haven't personally used AMD gpu's in a few year. Are they really that bad?

Nope.

They had some issues, and bad management decisions, that just set them wwwaaaayyyy back in Marketshare. At the end of the day they are still good though.
    
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Nope.

They had some issues, and bad management decisions, that just set them wwwaaaayyyy back in Marketshare. At the end of the day they are still good though.

I had both in last 2 years yet I prefer AMD.
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But if we go by that, then any rehashes cannot be high-end" until the last iteration....For example the 7970 couldn't be b/c it was rehashed with the ghz edition then again with the 280x and again with the 380x and by that time the next gen was out and thus fueling a never ending cycle to where no card is "high-end".

No, you missed the point entirely.

GK104 = midrange
GK110 = high end

They both came out at about the same time, GK110 was limited to HPC customers only for about a year though (as the Tesla K20).
They are not revisions of the same chip, they are totally different chips. It would be as if AMD launched the HD 7870 as "high end" and kept the HD 7970 off of shelves for about a year, even though the product was already in production.
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