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Never, OW is far too much based on Ultis.

OW is just prettier and new, but I'd take TF2 6v6 over OW any day. Don't compare OW to TF2 casual, or if you want imagine OW 24 player matches. That would be ultimate cancer.

OW is still pretty new though, give it some time to mature.
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Lol tf2 is the definition of casual dude. overwatch and cs are MUCH better than tf2 ever will be

Like I said, look at 6s not public. Also CS is a very different and very boring game.

A lot of the best OW players come from TF2 btw, I don't follow OW too closely but from memory seagull, tviq, taimou, clockwork, dummy,... Many more, but I cba to look them up
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post #1483 of 4018
Quake anyone?
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Originally Posted by CorruptBE View Post

OW is still pretty new though, give it some time to mature.

Yep, in time it might become better than tf2. Not there yet though.
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Originally Posted by daniel0731ex View Post

Quake anyone?

quake champions is quake's last leg, we'll see if it's any good.. quake live was a bummer for me personally - the browser aspect really hurt them too.. we're with a different generation now though don't forget
post #1486 of 4018
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Originally Posted by Ino. View Post

Like I said, look at 6s not public. Also CS is a very different and very boring game.

A lot of the best OW players come from TF2 btw, I don't follow OW too closely but from memory seagull, tviq, taimou, clockwork, dummy,... Many more, but I cba to look them up

not sure how good the teams they're in are performing in OW atm, but:
knoxxx, zappis, milo, enigma, hymzi, numlocked, zebbosai, dikker, kensi, cypher, degun, nico, baud, flippy, hidan, exon, harbleu, shadowburn, forsak3n, powah, dahang, mangachu, pyyyour, cozen, shrugger, flame, papasmurf..
still missing a bunch

anyway, @dylan the only reason any of them are good overwatch players is because they played tf2 for years and years (ask them why).
most of them would still be playing tf2 if it wasn't for valve's misjudgment (they don't seem to understand anymore what the game is, what it could be, or what it needs).
and the only reason overwatch is big is because blizzard is backing it and pushing it,
there was just too little incentive for hardcore / pro players to play tf2 - in the end it was simply about money
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Originally Posted by Dylan Nails View Post

Lol tf2 is the definition of casual dude. overwatch and cs are MUCH better than tf2 ever will be
As an unabashed Overwatch fanboy and player, you're delusional. Overwatch is far more casual than TF2.
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quake champions is quake's last leg, we'll see if it's any good.. quake live was a bummer for me personally - the browser aspect really hurt them too.. we're with a different generation now though don't forget
Don't forget about Diabotical!
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not sure how good the teams they're in are performing in OW atm, but:
knoxxx, zappis, milo, enigma, hymzi, numlocked, zebbosai, dikker, kensi, cypher, degun, nico, baud, flippy, hidan, exon, harbleu, shadowburn, forsak3n, powah, dahang, mangachu, pyyyour, cozen, shrugger, flame, papasmurf..
still missing a bunch
Flame is not on a team, iirc, but does pretty good VOD reviews. Pyyyour is on Splice (lol). Milo and Enigma are on NRG with Seagull, which is in a slump rn. Mangachu just lost his team because Northern Gaming dropped their team (unless I misread). Shadowburn is the best Genji player in the entire game.
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Originally Posted by Dylan Nails View Post

Lol tf2 is the definition of casual dude. overwatch and cs are MUCH better than tf2 ever will be

In what ways is Overwatch better or less casual than TF2? I'd generally like to know. I know a fair number of people think this, but I usually assume it is just because of hype and the money being dumped in to the competitive scene in OW currently. I personally think it has a much more casual feeling due to ultimates among other things.

Edit: I will say the experience for the general player is closer to the competitive experience in OW though which may be why some people think this. I could never really get in to TF2 6v6s because the skill ceiling was absurd in that game and I just got my ass kicked whenever I tried. I forget what site I used, but I used to play quite a lot of highlander and occasionally some 6v6s on some popular site for setting up pugs in tf2.
Edited by chr1spe - 8/27/16 at 5:07pm
post #1489 of 4018
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Originally Posted by Ino. View Post

Like I said, look at 6s not public. Also CS is a very different and very boring game.

A lot of the best OW players come from TF2 btw, I don't follow OW too closely but from memory seagull, tviq, taimou, clockwork, dummy,... Many more, but I cba to look them up
....i would expect the best players to be tf2 players since its a copy of tf2 gameplay except much better
post #1490 of 4018
I haven't played TF2 in a long time but...OW balancing is catering towards spam, nerfing any hero that gives an advantage to players with good aim, and if all else fails, press "Q" to win. Like...I've played Dota for years, and the ultimate skills in OW are stronger than any ultimate in Dota. But Dota isn't an FPS, and saving up multiple Q's is basically how you win in OW. It may be somewhat competitive, but I'm not sure the direction they are heading in will result in the game becoming "e-sport".

Last patch they increased projectile hitbox, and then removed all remaining advance techniques of "animation cancel". They are ruining there own game by make it more shallow and balancing towards players who never played an FPS before -- IMO.
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