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people are hard on FM because of their consistent non-professional attitude, not just because they lied or because they're late.
post #872 of 4018
I couldn't care. Do they make mice that work? Are the clicks OK? Is the shape OK? So they need a PR firm, agent, whatever, what's it to me? All I wanna do is play games.
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people are hard on FM because of their consistent non-professional attitude, not just because they lied or because they're late.
i'd say that the latter two directly contribute to the former
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post #874 of 4018
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[ And If you're going to tell me the build quality is any worse. Well, I'm not really convinced that it is. I have a classic ergo. It's not that bad.

Is there any other mouse that went through 3 revisions for the same product? Same sensor, shape, firmware?

How does that not convince you that the build quality is bad? It convinced FM to change it so many times, we don't need to go any further than that. Don't be surprised if yoru FM starts bugging out couple of months later.
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I couldn't Care. Do they make mice that work? Are the clicks OK? Is the shape OK? So they need a PR firm, agent, whatever, what's it to me? All I wanna do is play games.

I mean, it's not just a matter of PR because their products aren't perfect either. Build quality so bad they released several iterations trying to address it (failing each time) and extra MCU smoothing (that they completely denied existed, then later said was intentional because pros like it, then later said was a problem they'd fix rolleyes.gif).
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Is there any other mouse that went through 3 revisions for the same product? Same sensor, shape, firmware?

How does that not convince you that the build quality is bad? It convinced FM to change it so many times, we don't need to go any further than that. Don't be surprised if yoru FM starts bugging out couple of months later.

Zowie. Omrons back to huanos. Quality control issues. The stiffest, most god, awful clicks on the MAJORITY of their mice. G302, to g303. You change the sensor, now the thing rattles, before what were people saying, it tilted because of a bad design, I don't remember. A firmware update on my g502 made it so the sensor calibration caused my mouse to skip. I thought it broke for a while until I looked it up. A little bit of mcu smoothing -- what about a year where you have your mouse changing dpi with liftoff like roccat. Months with garbage click latency. There's a thread on the front page of reddit where Roccat RMA up and took a guys hardware and refuse to answer his emails. I mean, what, you had to hobble out into the daylight and UPS the thing back to amazon. What a horrible inconvenience. I'm sitting here, it's been weeks, WEEKS. The g303 RMA just shipped yesterday. I think it's telling that this small companies pushing improved iterations of their mice, or trying to, while everyone else is going, yeah we could fix the stiff clicks or the sensor rattle, but nahhhh, here's the same mouse but with a different logo, or a new color. And I don't even use the thing. You guys just have me on tilt.
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Zowie. Omrons back to huanos. Quality control issues. The stiffest, most god, awful clicks on the MAJORITY of their mice. G302, to g303. You change the sensor, now the thing rattles, before what were people saying, it tilted because of a bad design, I don't remember. A firmware update on my g502 made it so the sensor calibration caused my mouse to skip. I thought it broke for a while until I looked it up. A little bit of mcu smoothing -- what about a year where you have your mouse changing dpi with liftoff like roccat. Months with garbage click latency. There's a thread on the front page of reddit where Roccat RMA up and took a guys hardware and refuse to answer his emails. I mean, what, you had to hobble out into the daylight and UPS the thing back to amazon. What a horrible inconvenience. I'm sitting here, it's been weeks, WEEKS. The g303 RMA just shipped yesterday. I think it's telling that this small companies pushing improved iterations of their mice, or trying to, while everyone else is going, yeah we could fix the stiff clicks or the sensor rattle, but nahhhh, here's the same mouse but with a different logo, or a new color. And I don't even use the thing. You guys just have me on tilt.

Congratulations, you listed all the same reasons that the OCN community criticizes in their respective threads. FM shouldn't get special treatment either.

Btw, the MCU smoothing issue was more about their lie and not the actual smoothing. There's many mice available that has some smoothing or even acceleration, but people still love it and no one comes up and say no they are wrong.

Edit: Actually I feel bad for labeling that as a lie, they weren't aware of it themselves because they ODM told them there wasn't any smoothing and FM was being a parrot.
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ODM: This is the part they don't see.
post #879 of 4018
I still await this mouse ;/
There just is no another mouse out there.
All I want is a 3360, low weight, normal ambidextrous and omron.

Hell there are not even many options for that with 3310 sensor.
post #880 of 4018
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Originally Posted by aayman_farzand View Post

Congratulations, you listed all the same reasons that the OCN community criticizes in their respective threads. FM shouldn't get special treatment either.

Btw, the MCU smoothing issue was more about their lie and not the actual smoothing. There's many mice available that has some smoothing or even acceleration, but people still love it and no one comes up and say no they are wrong.

Edit: Actually I feel bad for labeling that as a lie, they weren't aware of it themselves because they ODM told them there wasn't any smoothing and FM was being a parrot.

Don't feel bad, Jude spent some time damage controlling the smoothing saying it was there because that's how their pros like it.
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