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Too bad they were going to use the Japanese Omrons and decided to use the Chinese Omrons instead. They probably aren't using an ALPS encoder either! Yet the price is still very high.

Every cent saved on a mouse in a 100,000 mouse batch puts 1000$ in your pocket. Money, nonetheless. Plus nothing guarantees Japanese switches aren't gonna break or last longer - German Cherries (DG series) break fast AF (due to low rating, I assume).

And those ALPS are more trouble than outcome, as they require a robust sub-micrometer precise housing. Have been endlessly trying to fit one with small plastic arches of various designs. As I lack factory equipment, to no avail - it's either too much friction or too much rattle. No wonder only one company managed to implement it properly and make a distinguished feature out of it (although I hear CM managed to fix the rattle on their Recons after all).
post #892 of 4018
>sub-micrometer
i'm not sure you're aware of what you're talking about
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post #893 of 4018
'Cuz just sub-millimeter doesn't do the trick.
post #894 of 4018
millimeter peter eater?
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Every cent saved on a mouse in a 100,000 mouse batch puts 1000$ in your pocket. Money, nonetheless. Plus nothing guarantees Japanese switches aren't gonna break or last longer - German Cherries (DG series) break fast AF (due to low rating, I assume).

And those ALPS are more trouble than outcome, as they require a robust sub-micrometer precise housing. Have been endlessly trying to fit one with small plastic arches of various designs. As I lack factory equipment, to no avail - it's either too much friction or too much rattle. No wonder only one company managed to implement it properly and make a distinguished feature out of it (although I hear CM managed to fix the rattle on their Recons after all).

Japanese Omrons switches have better feedback than the Chinese versions due to the design. The metals are of higher quality as well. I'm not sure the sorting/tolerance is better with the Japanese Omrons.

Doesn't the Roccat mice and the Secret use the ALPS encoder? Do a bunch of people complain about it? The design of the encoder is the same as the cheaper Chinese encoders that are used in majority of mice.

If you are going to charge ~$80 for a non wireless mouse it better have something of quality or superior performing components. Other companies are going to offer the same, if not better, products at $60 or less.
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Doesn't the Roccat mice and the Secret use the ALPS encoder? Do a bunch of people complain about it? The design of the encoder is the same as the cheaper Chinese encoders that are used in majority of mice.

While I haven't info on Ducky, Roccat's implementation is indeed decent. It's the higher resistance of the encoder that requires a precise housing, otherwise it would cause rattle. Haven't seen much praise on CM Recon and SS Sensei wheels, although they, too, use ALPS.
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While I haven't info on Ducky, Roccat's implementation is indeed decent. It's the higher resistance of the encoder that requires a precise housing, otherwise it would cause rattle. Haven't seen much praise on CM Recon and SS Sensei wheels, although they, too, use ALPS.

I thought the Sensei had the typical Chinese encoder.
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I thought the Sensei had the typical Chinese encoder.
New RAW (2nd gen) has a TTC black encoder. All the rest (original, 1st gen RAW, wireless) have ALPS.
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Today's the big day boys. Will Jude and FM pull through with the pre-release production?
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When do you think the FM Tourney Pro will be available to order from Amazon? Early Noon Late Day? Haha. I am just excited. Today is the big day. LOL
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