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Heya.

My board has 6 USB ports in the back.
I have 6 USB devices hooked up to.

I though getting an extra USB add-on card would be handy so i dont have to switch devices whenever i want to connect more then 6.

Then i though maybe its best to put my USB DAC on it alone so its has its own controller all for himself.

This is the add-on card:


I have put it in the 3rd PCIE slot on my board (PCIE 2.0 @ X4)
Top PCIEx1 slot is blocked by CPU cooler, 2nd PCIEx1 is blocked by GPU.

All devices work on it without problems except the DAC.
When my DAC is connected to that card i hear wierd "pops" in music.

Looked in manual of the board and noticed the the 3rd PCIE slot also shared IRQ with the first and second PCIE slot.
I then put my GPU in PCIE slot 2 so the card could be inserted in a standard PCIEx1 slot.
The pops was less but still there frown.gif

DAC works without problems on all other ports of the board but gets popping sound on add-on USB card.
All other devices work without a problem on the add-on USB card.

What could be the problem ?
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Maybe put a pic of the setup.
IMO the additional factor that is that the removable caracter of the said controller with a PCI-E connecor is maybe the reason there are more 'artifacts' than with ports that are directly soldered/plugged by other means to the mobo.
IMO also test the speed of the said controller, if it is lower than the other ports maybe there is a connexion/data traffic problem.
A quick 'fix' would just be to plug your dac to the 'working' ports and to plug the other devivces to the controller lol
 
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Maybe put a pic of the setup.
IMO the additional factor that is that the removable caracter of the said controller with a PCI-E connecor is maybe the reason there are more 'artifacts' than with ports that are directly soldered/plugged by other means to the mobo.
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A quick 'fix' would just be to plug your dac to the 'working' ports and to plug the other devivces to the controller lol

Yeah i have the DAC on a port of the board now and its fine.
But i stll would like the other ports on the add-on card to be problem free to.

One day i would like to mod this card so it can work on a external PSU and/or battery.
Why ? Because many say it enhances SQ, i dont believe that much... i just like to hobby smile.gif

I also tryed a filter on the USB port but that didnt make any difference.
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There is a good troubleshooting guide from M-Audio here - http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/en404491

Something else not mentioned in that, are both the DAC and USB set for and capable of the same synchronous, asynchronous or adaptive? That would affect your DAC, but typically not other devices.

And if your other devices are working correctly with the card, it would simply make sense to use your DAC on one of the ports controlled by the MB chipset, and use the card for other devices.
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There is a good troubleshooting guide from M-Audio here - http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Troubleshooting/en404491

Something else not mentioned in that, are both the DAC and USB set for and capable of the same synchronous, asynchronous or adaptive? That would affect your DAC, but typically not other devices.

And if your other devices are working correctly with the card, it would simply make sense to use your DAC on one of the ports controlled by the MB chipset, and use the card for other devices.

DAC is async, ports are USB 3... that should work.
DAC on motherboards USB 3 works fine aswell as USB 2.
There are no settings (plug and play) so for the rest i have no idea with what you mean "set for and capable of the same synchronous"

I have the DAC on motherboard now and both my joysticks on the add-on controller.

But because i would like to mod this card (because fun/hobby) it should work properly before doing so.

Check that troubleshooting guide and done most in it.
My problem is not really in that guide though.
All devices except for DAC work flawless, The DAC does play music and it sound good to only every 5 to 10 secs you hear a plop..... very strange.
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Speed test pls
 
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Speed test pls

How ?
I only got usb sticks and a usb 2.0 external drive.
Not enough to test usb 3.0 right ?


All specs i could find of the add-on card:
http://www.logilink.com/Produkte_LogiLink/Interface_Karten/Express_Karten/PCI_Express_Karte-2x_USB_30.htm

Specification: General:
• Chipset: NEC720202
• Compliant with PCI-Express Revision 2.0
• Full single lane PCI- Express throughput
• Fully Plug & Play and Hot Swappable
• Supports Windows XP/Vista/7/8.1/10USB3.0
• 2 Ports USB3.0 A female
• Compliant with USB3.0 Specification Rev 1.0
• Compliant with USB3.0 (5Gbps), USB2.0 (480Mbps), and USB1.1 (12Mbps)Specification
• Supports USB legacy function
• USB Bus Power/Self Power
• Supports External Power Socket in order to supply power for each USB3.0 Connector up to 900Ma Max/port
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I dunno test anyway with 2.0 or usb 3.0 and maybe find a way to borrow any 3.0 device lol.
The point here is just to see if there is any sizeable diff.
You may also try to test with another card you ordered/borrowef or smth.
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I dunno test anyway with 2.0 or usb 3.0 and maybe find a way to borrow any 3.0 device lol.
The point here is just to see if there is any sizeable diff.
You may also try to test with another card you ordered/borrowef or smth.

Port1 on the add-on card:


Port2 add-on card:


USB 3.0 port from the motherboard:



Seems ok doesnt it ?
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Yeah, at least it can transfer stuff fast enough.
I dont really know, sound quality/problems are kinda finnicky, my last advice yould be to test with another card maybe aldo change the sound player (headphones,speakers...)
 
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