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post #1 of 58
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Hello,

I'm very new in to the water cooling world, I have used the corsair h60 in the past but as its a closed loop zero maintenance system i have no experience in custom loops.

I'm running an I7 4790k with a 240mm rad, a barrow res and a generic CPU water block.

Liquid solution is distilled water and XSPC ECX green UV

The problem I'm having is under load my 4970k is hitting 70c on stock clocks. With a stress test temps go in to the 90's

The idle temp is around 36-41c

The coolant temp is around 28-35c depending on the amount of soak time.

Ive tried re-pasting multiple times with no change in temps, maybe +1-1 so my conclusion is it the crappy water block.

The block has zero channels and just lets the water flow over a copper plate.



Ive got plenty of flow from the pump, and i have purged all the air from the system.


So my main question is do you agree with my conclusion?

&

What is a cheap >$120 block I can buy that will be more than adequate for a 4.6Ghz OC

I'm running an 1150 z97 mb and my current fittings on the water-cooling set up are G1/4 thread


Thank you for your time and help.
Edited by Tekgnome - 2/24/16 at 7:29pm
post #2 of 58
I would look at a real block like the Raystorm Pro or a EK supremacy EVO. Those are consistently ranked the highest in thermal tests.
post #3 of 58
Definitely looks like your block is just poo and is the main reason for the bad temps.

Right now I have an ancient EK supremacy block that I bought used for $60 and is still keeping my 3930k cool. Performance-pcs is having a sale too right now so if you find something good then snag the promo codes and get your loop running with a new block. thumb.gif
 
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post #4 of 58
I would concur that the crappy block is the problem. Anything from EK if good, I would ask in the OCN watercooling club for suggestions for CPU blocks.
post #5 of 58
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Ive heard good things about EK, but I like the led design of the raystorm pro. Is there any real world benefit from one over the other?

I'm not number chasing but I would like a moderate 4.6Ghz out of my 4970k and keep it under 70c at load

Thank you guys for the feedback.
post #6 of 58
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Originally Posted by Tekgnome View Post

Ive heard good things about EK, but I like the led design of the raystorm pro. Is there any real world benefit from one over the other?

I'm not number chasing but I would like a moderate 4.6Ghz out of my 4970k and keep it under 70c at load

Thank you guys for the feedback.

if you look on xtremerig and a few other places you will find that the raystorm pro and ek trade blows depending on what socket they cooling but they are both so close in performance. Ultimately your decision should be based on cost, looks. They are way to close and competitive to be ranked in performance.
post #7 of 58
The block would be the main issue.
For block, XSPC RayStorm V3 or RayStorm Pro, EK-Supremacy EVO, Swiftech Apogee XL or XLC all of these would be a better choice.
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post #8 of 58
I do find it interesting that even a cheap block like that would perform so poorly. The numbers you are reporting are much worse than even some of the mid range air coolers. Yes the block you have lacks micro-channels but i would wager a guess to say that the problem exists with the surfaces of that block i bet it is not flat enough and i believe the mounting mechanism to be to blame.
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What are you using to stress test? If you are using prime95 your temps could be normal for that CPU. Prime95 is very hard on Devils canyon. Do a google search for 4790 prime95 high heat issues.
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post #10 of 58
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What are you using to stress test? If you are using prime95 your temps could be normal for that CPU. Prime95 is very hard on Devils canyon. Do a google search for 4790 prime95 high heat issues.

90*C and watercooling should never be in the same sentence, clearly there is a issue here. My 3930k with 2 extra cores and a higher package draw never see's anywhere close to that under stress with air cooling not to mention i run much higher voltages and a higher overclock.
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