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Just order all my watercooling Parts for my first attempt at Watercooling, Is their anything else I need? Is the Swiftech MCP655 Series Pump any good? I was debating between Swiftech MCP655 Series, Alpha Cool Speed control and Aquacomputer Speed control.

Also with Distilled Water and Dazmode Protector whats the longest time I can run my PC for? I don't have any kind of dyes in the system if that matters.

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I suggest you get the regular D5 vario. TBH, there's no need to get a PWM version of the pump (since its quieter than DDC pumps).

And since you're going to be using a AQ6, you're better off with the regular GT's. That fan controller can control voltage controlled GT's all the way down to 400 RPM (or below).

I know, im using (16) AP-15's with my AQ5 LT.
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You also should get a set of the CaseLabs Short Nonconforming Mounts, in order to install the Aquaero in your S8S.
http://www.caselabs-store.com/flex-bay-5-25-device-mount-short-nonconforming/
Afaik, they are still needed to properly mount it in the case.

Regarding Ironsmack's suggestions. I'm also running the regular D5 Varios, and non-pwm AP-15's.
But I currently don't have an Aquaero, or any other fan controller atm.
As you have an Aquaero 6 XT on your list, if you plan on using it to control your pump speeds, then you would have to get an Aquacomputer pwm-controlled D5, as the others won't work with the Aquaero, unless you modify them (see the Diva Mod, on the Aquaero thread here).

I find that the regular D5 Vario pumps are simple enough to adjust, and reliable. Since you are buying some of your stuff from Dazmode, they also sell the regular oem Laing D5 Vario pumps, I bought mine there.
Good choice on getting the GT fans, but I think Dazmode is out of stock on them for a while.

As far as the Dazmode Protector and distilled, that is what I ran for a year in my previous build, and for a few months in my current S8, until I switched to blue, for the bling.
I'll be going back to using Daz's Protector and distilled again soon, when I re-do my loop and upgrade. Simple, effective, and inexpensive.

Anyhow, the Dazmode Protector and distilled works fine for me, as for how long, that's up to you, but it's certainly cheap enough to change it yearly, for example.

Nice list of parts, and good quality stuff.
Idk what kind of tubing you are planning on using though, try to get a decent brand, so you don't have any issues down the road.

Cpu block, did I miss that?

Edit:
Also, I wasn't able to tell from your list how many of each fitting you're getting, depends on your loop of course.
You want to make sure to get enough of them.
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I suggest you get the regular D5 vario. TBH, there's no need to get a PWM version of the pump (since its quieter than DDC pumps).

And since you're going to be using a AQ6, you're better off with the regular GT's. That fan controller can control voltage controlled GT's all the way down to 400 RPM (or below).

I know, im using (16) AP-15's with my AQ5 LT.

With the other fans, It says the lowest speed is 900 RPM. With these you can go down to 500 or upto 1850.

It's not PWM version. It's D5 with Speed control. Should I get something else. I was look at Alphacool D5 pump and aqucomputer D5 pump. I went Switech since everyone keeps telling me it's the best. I can return if needed. I going for quiet and good performance.

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This is the pump I got seen in this video:

Edited by Revan654 - 2/14/16 at 10:44pm
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You also should get a set of the CaseLabs Short Nonconforming Mounts, in order to install the Aquaero in your S8S.
http://www.caselabs-store.com/flex-bay-5-25-device-mount-short-nonconforming/
Afaik, they are still needed to properly mount it in the case.

Regarding Ironsmack's suggestions. I'm also running the regular D5 Varios, and non-pwm AP-15's.
But I currently don't have an Aquaero, or any other fan controller atm.
As you have an Aquaero 6 XT on your list, if you plan on using it to control your pump speeds, then you would have to get an Aquacomputer pwm-controlled D5, as the others won't work with the Aquaero, unless you modify them (see the Diva Mod, on the Aquaero thread here).

I find that the regular D5 Vario pumps are simple enough to adjust, and reliable. Since you are buying some of your stuff from Dazmode, they also sell the regular oem Laing D5 Vario pumps, I bought mine there.
Good choice on getting the GT fans, but I think Dazmode is out of stock on them for a while.

As far as the Dazmode Protector and distilled, that is what I ran for a year in my previous build, and for a few months in my current S8, until I switched to blue, for the bling.
I'll be going back to using Daz's Protector and distilled again soon, when I re-do my loop and upgrade. Simple, effective, and inexpensive.

Anyhow, the Dazmode Protector and distilled works fine for me, as for how long, that's up to you, but it's certainly cheap enough to change it yearly, for example.

Nice list of parts, and good quality stuff.
Idk what kind of tubing you are planning on using though, try to get a decent brand, so you don't have any issues down the road.

Cpu block, did I miss that?

I forgot to put that on the list, I got XSPC Raystorm PRO.

I got Darkside Flexible Tube 3/8″ ID, 5/8″ OD (10/16mm) -Blue UV.

I got some GT fans from a watercooling store in New York. Their also going to braid them before sending them out.

I have to check box that Case-Labs sent me, Since I got allot and bought some extras.
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Looks good. Once you start building you might realize you need some specific fittings because of restrictions in the case, or because you want to route the tubing a specific way but no way to predict that

One tool I would suggest is a hose cutter. Yes I know you can use scissors etc but I personally like to use the best tools for the job and these hose cutters are it. Slide through the tube like butter and very easy to cut tubing to exactly the right length when you are working inside the case.

    
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Looks good to me smile.gif


@Ironsmack I know they already told you but I figured I would reiterate, they are correct. Volt Controlled GTs do not get anywhere near 400rpm on any fan controller PWM GTs do. This isnt just the case for the GTs but any Voltage Control fan, the way they work they shut off around 6vs which is a little less than half there rated RPM. However PWM fans receive there 12v in pulses they can go a whole lot lower than any VCed fan. The reason PWM fans are used less commonly, is controllers for PWM are few and far between and very expensive, however they are in fact superior to VCed fans in every way.
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Looks good. Once you start building you might realize you need some specific fittings because of restrictions in the case, or because you want to route the tubing a specific way but no way to predict that

One tool I would suggest is a hose cutter. Yes I know you can use scissors etc but I personally like to use the best tools for the job and these hose cutters are it. Slide through the tube like butter and very easy to cut tubing to exactly the right length when you are working inside the case.


Already grabbed one smile.gif
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Looks good to me smile.gif


@Ironsmack I know they already told you but I figured I would reiterate, they are correct. Volt Controlled GTs do not get anywhere near 400rpm on any fan controller PWM GTs do. This isnt just the case for the GTs but any Voltage Control fan, the way they work they shut off around 6vs which is a little less than half there rated RPM. However PWM fans receive there 12v in pulses they can go a whole lot lower than any VCed fan. The reason PWM fans are used less commonly, is controllers for PWM are few and far between and very expensive, however they are in fact superior to VCed fans in every way.


It depends on the fan controller

I know the AQ5/6 can run voltage controlled fans way lower than 400 rpms. I even got my AP15's down to 240ish RPM.

Ive done it on my AP-15's, Be quiet pure wings 2, Stock phantek fans (that came with my Primo), Noctua NF-P12's i have.

With PWM, your PWM signal degrades as you add more fans (much like voltage controlled fans). But from what i read, when that signal degrades - you loose control of the fans.

With less than 8 fans, PWM is much more convenient. It's when you have 8+ fans (+ PWM splitters) are more challenging to control since there isn't a good PWM fan controller that can handle that much fan (except the AQ6).
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It depends on the fan controller

I know the AQ5/6 can run voltage controlled fans way lower than 400 rpms. I even got my AP15's down to 240ish RPM.

Ive done it on my AP-15's, Be quiet pure wings 2, Stock phantek fans (that came with my Primo), Noctua NF-P12's i have.

With PWM, your PWM signal degrades as you add more fans (much like voltage controlled fans). But from what i read, when that signal degrades - you loose control of the fans.

With less than 8 fans, PWM is much more convenient. It's when you have 8+ fans (+ PWM splitters) are more challenging to control since there isn't a good PWM fan controller that can handle that much fan (except the AQ6).

The PWM signal and degrading is entirely dependent on the fan, Corsair SP fans for instance are different from most and yes they suffer from the 8 fan limit, however most fans do not have that issue. That issue is due to Corsair fans requiring a much stronger signal then most other PWM devices for some reason.

Anyway an AQ6 can easily control a ton of PWM fans from 1 channel of PWM control, I have seen it run 16 fully controlled PWM GTs. The person wired the 2 PWM leads together from splitters and then hooked them to 1 channel. This can be invaluable as they are self powered so if we start talking about PWM Delta Aces or the like where the AQ could only run 2 or 3 of those monsters it could run 16 with ease or more. The AQ is only capable of 30ws (per channel?) however there is fans on the market that just 1 is 30ws lol.

You are correct the GTs can get pretty low with a VC versions from I just read, however so can the PWMs. OP has an AQ6 so the fact thats what he needs for controlling PWM fans is kind of irrelevant but I do agree this is a deal breaker for a lot people and PWM fans. From the thermal bench review of the Darksides they both will go to 200rpms.

Also if you are running a whole ton of fans then VC is what you do not want. PWM fans with the use of swifttech splitters can be powered by molex and have there PWM curves controlled by a single PWM header. I use to do this with corsairs I had 14 corsair SP fans running from 2 PWM CPU fan headers on my RIVBE. If I was to have used GTs I could have daisy chained many splitters and got more fans from 1 header.

Now as far as the other fans you mentioned hitting very low RPMs, the GTs I have found that confirmed they work below 6vs most fans however do not. Here is the Noctuas as you can see they do not start spinning until 6vs that is no where near 400rpm. (not my video btw, just found it googling)

That is a 1300rpm fan so at the lowest I could see that fan spinning, is around 600 and most likely more like 700. The AQ doesn't change that fact, the fan starts when the fan starts no magic the AQ can do to change that.
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Razer Goliath  Razer Electra, Corsair Vengeance 2000, Kingston... EK Vardars 140mm razer nostromos  
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i7 5820k Evga Micro 2 X99 EVGA Superclocked + 980ti Gskill Ripjaws V 
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Up in the AIR Up in the air still.  Windows 10 XFX 850 W pro.  
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Hex Gear R40 
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