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Which one would you recommend? I know that Samsung is the most expensive and it is all my knowledge.

SanDisk SSD Plus 240GB

Crucial BX100 250GB

Crucial MX200 250GB

Samsung 850 EVO 250GB - I read that this one is the best but it is most expensive too. LF confirm.

What is the difference between BX100 and MX200? 1st is cheaper than 2nd one.

Specs

CPU: Intel Core i5-750 /2.66GHz (3,8GHz OC) LGA1156
RAM: G.Skill 4GB (2x2GB) 1600MHz CL9 RL + Crucial DDR3 Ballistix Sport 8GB/1600 (2*4GB) CL9-9-9-24 SOON
MOBO: Gigabyte P55-UD3 /intel P55, Dual DDR3-2000, GLan/
GPU: Radeon R7 250X
HDD: Samsung 500GB 7200rpm 16MB cache SATA-II F3
DVD: Samsung SH-S223B SATA (black)
PSU: http://www.amazon.com/FirePower-Fully-Modular-Performance-formerly-Cooling/dp/B005SCYFPQ

My final question. What should I do before installing Windows 7 on SSD? Probably change to AHCI in BIOS but what else?

Should I install something from this site http://www.gigabyte.pl/products/page/mb/ga-p55-ud3_10/download/ ? Or everything should be good with only switching to AHCI?(I saw this on one of the youtube videos about installing Windows 7 on SSD)

I read that I should unplug my HDD during Windows installation but how to format system disk on HDD after? Unplug SSD and format disk system on HDD? I don't want to mess up.

To which SATA should I connect this SSD? I read that there are different SATA with this MOBO and Marvel is worse than Intel2 or something like this.
Edited by Nerish - 2/14/16 at 5:50pm
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You need a little background info before you make a choice about how to install Windows.

When any operating system (OS) installs it add a tiny bit of code to the boot device, which is usually the drive connected to SATA port 0 unless you change it to another port/drivein the BIOS. When any computer starts up it reads that code. The code tells the computer where Windows is, specifically, where the Windows Folder (the OS) is located so that that OS can be loaded and run.

So, any drive can be the boot drive (set in the BIOS) and any drive or partition can have the Windows folder on it (It's where you choose to install Windows during a Windows install.).

So, if you a;ready have an OS installed and install another one what happens?
The install program for the new OS "sees" the tiny bit of code on the boot drive and "sees" where the existing Windows folder is located. It them modifies the code to point to both the old Windows Folder and the new Windows Folder it is installing. Them, when the computer starts up the tiny code shows it that there are two OSs installed and the the computer will then ask you which OS you want to boot. It asks this every time it starts after you install the second OS.

This is the "Dual Boot" Screen you'll get with Windows 10 and , for example, Windows 7



What are the ramifications of this scenario:

If you remove the drive with an existing OS on it and install another OS, the computer will only "see" the OS that is on what was the boot drive when that new OS was installed. In order to boot the other "old" OS you have to either change the boot drive in the BIOS or use the motherboard's boot selector to choose the old OS.

You get either of these two boot screens, but have to make the changes noted above to change from one to the other.

Win 7:



Or Win 10:



If you leave the drive with the old OS connected when you install a new OS and then later. remove the old drive, the computer won't start. because you remover the boot drive that had that tiny code that showed where the Windows Folder was locate - as far as the computer is concerned there would be no OS (Windows Folder) installed.

So, before you install a new OS over an old one you really have to know where you want to end up in the future. Two OSs or just the new one.

But, fortunately, Microsoft gave us a tool to fix all this nonsense. The tool, BCDEdit.exe, lets you choose what OSs you want to use after you have installed multiple OSs. Unfortunately (if you looked) that tool is very complex to use and you can easity FUBAR all your installs. But fortunately there's an easy to use version called EasyBCD.exe (cute name!).

So, now you have what you need to know when you install an new OS.

What are you going to do?

..and I'd spend the money for the Samsung.
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Please detail the uses that you may make with your PC/SSD.
In the mean time check out my SSD build template.
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MadjinnSayan View Post

Please detail the uses that you may make with your PC/SSD.
In the mean time check out my SSD build template.

Mostly gaming
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Originally Posted by billbartuska View Post

You need a little background info before you make a choice about how to install Windows.

I want just the new one OS(Windows 7) installed only on my SSD plus keep files on my old HDD(D partition) and format C partition to remove OS.

So I should plug in new SSD in place of old HDD and it is all what should I know? You confused me a bit right now.
Edited by Nerish - 2/15/16 at 1:18am
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Then save up your money, sell your current GPU and buy a bigger one. (GPU)
 
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So you say that it is not worth to buy SSD for mostly gaming?

I don't want to upgrade my GPU. My old one 'died' recently and I bought this one. I am going to buy new PC in July/August. This one I am upgrading(8GB RAM +SSD) a bit for me and my parents who will be working with my current PC after I buy new one PC. They work on Pentium 4 3,0GHz so it is painfully slow biggrin.gif.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVR-Xlvimd4

I think that difference is pretty big. My friend said that there is big difference between SSD and HDD in Company of Heroes 2 too. Not sure about Heroes of the Storm.

I play mostly in these games. Nothing else so I don't need better GPU. In HotS I have 60 fps+ without problems. In CoH2 a bit less because of poor optimization but most of the time it is 'fluent'. In Lineage 2 SSD is must be.
Edited by Nerish - 2/15/16 at 1:43am
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Alright then, even if it's not gaming IMO they won't really need the speed of the SSD, with the money:
-Buy bigger HDDs so they can store some stuff and get help of backups
-Buy a 'good' (quiet CPU cooler)
-Buy more RAM (8Gb min)
-Buy a card reader (photo ? phones ? more USB slots accessible)
-Buy 'better' (quieter) fans for the PC tower (which is......?)
 
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I am here for SSD and you are talking about other stuff. Please don't. Thanks.
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I would agree best upgrade is gpu but if you don't play games max out it wouldn't matter at all. SSD I would prefer sandisk or samsung maybe it's just me, anything cheaper price you can get is better and most ssd are pretty good nowadays.
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Sorry man, i just suggested other things because i thought a SSD wouldn't be as useful as some enhancements for you or your parents, IMO having a quieter/less freezy/functionnal PC may be better than having a PC that boots faster and opens a few lightweight programs faster too.
 
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