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post #311 of 3542
Not hitting the 6GB VRAM limit. At about 4.6GB-ish if I remember correctly. I'll have to run it tonight to verify the max VRAM use threshold with all settings maxed. IMHO, anything more than two 980Ti cards or Titan X cards, and return per dollar spent drops like a rock. Almost no scaling from 2 to 3-way SLI in over 95% of all games. It has partially to do with game coding, but also the fact that alternate frame rendering is not always the most efficient method to performance gains in most games when using more than two cards. This is the reason why the scaling drops off between 2 and 3-way SLI. To me, it's just not worth the extra $600+ for a 3rd GTX980Ti. I would rather save up for the two Pascal cards that will replace them later this year biggrin.gif
post #312 of 3542
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Originally Posted by Ninjawithagun View Post

Just make sure to keep an eye on that item return policy window...set an alarm on your smartphone or something... ;-)

It is fine, it can come under a fault smile.gif
post #313 of 3542
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Originally Posted by Ninjawithagun View Post

Should you decide to get the GTX980Ti instead of the Titan X (more so because of the cost difference), you will be happy to know that WItcher 3 can be played at max settings with a single GTX980Ti. I know because I own two GTX980Ti cards and don't have to enable SLI in order to get playable frame rates in Witcher 3! And yes, that's when playing at 3440 x 1440 resolution on my Acer X34 ;-)

I've done performance tests with a guy that owns 3x Titan X, this was GPU rendering in Iray. It turned out that one of his Titan X is approx. 46% faster than one of my older Titans, and that 4 of my GPU's actually performed slightly better than three of his Titan X's in iray, and we also did some game tests, with similar results, but with games favouring 3x Titan X more than 4x old titans.

There's no way I would choose a 980ti over a Titan X because I need the extra Vram for my work which is a priority compared to gaming.. plus the initial benchmarks done by TomH proved to be inaccurate, because they were using old drivers for the Titan X and old performance data, and new drivers for the 980ti that had been optimised for Maxwell, and other site like Anandtech, benchmarked using the same drivers and found the Titan X slightly faster, all be it by 2 fps. Of course now there are better alternative cooling solutions, so some benchmarks put the 980ti slightly above Titan X.

For me, doubling the vram is worth the extra cost, and a few extra fps more / less wont affect that decision, Makes a huge difference when Woking with large data sets, or complex scenes in 3ds max and iray,

If yo are on 980ti's in sli on a 3440 x 1440 monitor and still getting good fps in witcher 3 at max settings, then I am guessing its a scaling problem with SLI, as 4x older titans should be near par with 2x 980ti's, or a problem with my Mobo having to use SLI between two CPU's, but its never been a problem in the past, only with witch 3....

I definitely want to upgrade my GPU's though, pascal isn't that far away, 3 or 4 month IMO.
post #314 of 3542
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High end Pascal is not coming out this year, it will be Q1/Q2 2017, mid end Pascal is Q3/Q4 2016

Considering I can get 60 FPS in the Witcher 3 (max settings) and 120 FPS in Battlefront, there is not really much point in Pascal coming now anyway (for me) unless we get some really intensive games this year (does not look like it, apart from Battlefield 5)
post #315 of 3542
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That is what I think, everyone has scan lines however some people might have one where you cannot see it, however other people might have some where you can see it but it is faint and then some people have really bad scan lines

Also high end Pascal is not coming out June, mid end Pascal is coming Q3/Q4 2016 and then high end Pascal Q1/Q2 2017 smile.gif

I thought the rumours, rumours beefing the main word here, is that Titan Pascal will be the first released, and they are usually the top end silicon and full core count? I thought the lower end GPUs like GTX 1070, will come later, and the TI version possibly in 2017? Which will just be a tweaked Titan pascal for performance in games?
post #316 of 3542
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I thought the rumours, rumours beefing the main word here, is that Titan Pascal will be the first released, and they are usually the top end silicon and full core count? I thought the lower end GPUs like GTX 1070, will come later, and the TI version possibly in 2017? Which will just be a tweaked Titan pascal for performance in games?

We'll just have to wait and see what Nvidia pulls out of their green hat later this year biggrin.gif
post #317 of 3542
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Originally Posted by Ninjawithagun View Post

Be careful of putting to much stake into synthetic benchmarks (nice smelling bull*****) when deciding on which card to buy. Tons of well documented 'real world' benchmarking that proves the Titan X is just not worth the extra money over a GTX980Ti. I can attest to that. Not one game has got near the 6GB VRAM limit, even when playing at 4K. Now, this whole argument is moot, because 1) you stated you need more VRAM for non-game applications, but more importantly, 2) Pascal is coming out later this year and will change everything. 16GB and 32GB HBM2 variations will be released and the Pascal GPU will have more than double the transistors of the existing Maxwell GM200 architecture, which makes Pascal an absolute beast to compete with AMD's Artic Island GPU family ;-)

You are talking about this from a gamers point of view, I am looking at this from a CG artists point of view. The tests carried out with my machine and the owner of the Titan X's. were using the same scenes and came render passes on very similar systems, so the 46% performance increase is quite accurate.
post #318 of 3542
Think of Pascal as the GPU to finally usher in single card 4K gaming. By end of this year, 120Hz 4K IPS panels will be available with DisplayPort 1.3. The Pascal is the perfect card to match with such a gaming monitor. Also, Pascal will be better optimized for DX12. So, don't think about just today, think about tomorrow!!
post #319 of 3542
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Originally Posted by SRPlus View Post

You are talking about this from a gamers point of view, I am looking at this from a CG artists point of view. The tests carried out with my machine and the owner of the Titan X's. were using the same scenes and came render passes on very similar systems, so the 46% performance increase is quite accurate.

You are attempting to compare apples to oranges. Single GPU vs. Dual GPU card is a moot argument. Or do you have just the Titan (no designator)? Oh well. Doesn't matter. Regardless of what we think, Pascal is coming and will make what we have obsolete - period.
post #320 of 3542
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Originally Posted by Ninjawithagun View Post

Not hitting the 6GB VRAM limit. At about 4.6GB-ish if I remember correctly. I'll have to run it tonight to verify the max VRAM use threshold with all settings maxed. IMHO, anything more than two 980Ti cards or Titan X cards, and return per dollar spent drops like a rock. Almost no scaling from 2 to 3-way SLI in over 95% of all games. It has partially to do with game coding, but also the fact that alternate frame rendering is not always the most efficient method to performance gains in most games when using more than two cards. This is the reason why the scaling drops off between 2 and 3-way SLI. To me, it's just not worth the extra $600+ for a 3rd GTX980Ti. I would rather save up for the two Pascal cards that will replace them later this year biggrin.gif

Again from a cg artists point of view, the extra ram is definitely worth it, and the more GPU's for iray rendering , the better.

If you were to render an image of a detailed interior design, noise free in iray that takes one Titan X say 30 minutes to render, three Titan X's will do it I ten minutes, as they scale near perfect in 3ds max and iray.

So you have to wait an extra 20 minutes, meeh right? no way, if you have multiple clients wanting multiple images or animations completed in a day, that 20 minutes extra per image really makes a difference, so if a motherboard existed where I could have 8 dual slot GPUs installed I would already own it, and have the multiple PSU's needed :-)) Drooling just thinking about it lol
Edited by SRPlus - 2/26/16 at 7:06am
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