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Got a lot done today. Finished up wiring for the most part except for the psu cables. Got most of the acrylic tube done and hooked up the aquaero to test all the temp sensors and fans.

Two pieces of acrylic tube left to bend tomorrow morning and i'll mix up 2.5 liters of mayhems pastel extreme white. Then i'll dye it and fill the system. Installing the new led strips is the last thing i need to do. Should be leak testing by early afternoon.
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Pcb 4 pin blocks for the fans. These are for the lower side rad/front rad and the 4 voltage controlled intake/exhaust fans. There are 23 fans total in this build.


The rats nest in the lower rad chamber managed as best i can. I really wish i had opted for no front i/o on this case. All of it is hidden so i guess it doesn't matter that much.


Sick of wiring, decided to bend some tube for awhile. Top rad to GPU done.


Pump to top rad done.


Moved the lower outlet port on the res to the left side. Decided i didn't want the upper inlet and lower outlet on the same side.


GPU to top rad #2 done. This one was a little difficult due to how close together the vertical bend was to the horizontal ones. The upper bend didn't come out all that well but i knew it'd be the case. I had to get creative with the monsoon mandrels to even get this one done. I'll fix it in the fall when i redo all the tube with a jig i'll build that will allow much tighter and cleaner bends.


Test fitting lower rad to pass through tube. It failed. Tube wanted to push into the rad when mounted and the drain valve was pushing on wiring against the midplate wall.


Used a 45 degree fitting on the pass through and reconfigured the drain valve on the rad. Fits perfect now.



Soft tube connected to the lower pump on the other side. Dark spot around the fitting is from silicone grease i had to use to get the compression fitting screwed together. These barrow 3/8 x 5/8 fittings are terrible. Only bought them because the bitspower ones were out of stock forever and i couldn't wait any longer. The EK black nickel ones i used on the other side work so much better.


Powered up the aquaero to test all the fans. Had an issue with the voltage controlled fans. Turns out if you use a 4 pin connector going to the aquaero to the 4 pin pcb, three pin fans won't work. Used a 3 pin connector going from the pcb to the aquaero fan port and that fixed it. All fans work and no weird noises.



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thanks

it now lives... sort of. Bleeding and leak testing the system now with both d5s running full blast, should be air free in an hour or two. No leaks so far, :fingerscrossed:




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Finished up the last few tube sections today, filled the system, and started leak testing early in the afternoon. Got the led strips installed tonight as well. Just about done now. 9 hours and no leaks, i don't expect to see any in the morning. Will wire up the psu tomorrow and this thing will be running by the afternoon.
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Last two tube sections done


Time to mix the coolant and dye with distilled


Looks like the altitude had its way with the mayhems pastel container, some of it leaked through the seals


Pulled the seal and it exploded all over my shirt and face. It still had pressure built up inside from the elevation change.


Fortunately the blue dye did not have the same problem. Mixing up various concentrations here.



Decided to go with the color on the far right. Camera doesn't show it but its darker in person and has lost all its milky color.


What i ended up with on the right vs what i wanted on the left. I ran out of dye. Its a few shades lighter than what i wanted and still sort of has a milky color to it. I'll have to order more dye from PPCs and dump it in with the system running.


How i filled the system, total pain.


System filled, time to leak test.


Was so excited to get it running i forgot to put paper towels down on the gpu side.


Much better. Time to turn the pumps up to 100% and get that air out. Love the way the blue contrasts with the nickel. Kind of regret not going with nickel or black nickel fittings instead of black. Maybe i'll switch them this fall when i redo the tube.


If you build with hardline and don't have silicone o ring grease i feel bad for you. This stuff makes sliding the tube in and out so easy and keeps the o rings from getting damaged while test fitting tube. It was ~$6 on amazon. Will not cause any leaks.


Leds installed, seriously bright. So much better than the overpriced cheap chinese crap i've been using over the years for case lighting and this only cost $15 for a 16.4 ft roll. Dimmer switches were another $10. Hopefully this stays bright and doesn't dim over time.



Dimmer remote, controls both sets of leds and works from across the room.

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My rig is officially up and running as of this morning. 20 hour leak test finished successfully so i wired up the psu and got it running. I then proceeded to spend the rest of the morning troubleshooting little issues that cropped up.

First i forgot to install the usb cable for the aquaero to the mobo. Huge mistake, connecting that thing was a serious pain as it sits under 110mm of radiator and fan and has a pump right next to it. Not easy to get my hand into that tiny space. Once i finally connected it i connected the usb cable to the mobo incorrectly and was greeted with a warning message regarding overcurrent to the usb port. I quickly killed the power and spent the next 30 minutes freaking out over having burnt up my aquaero usb port.

First i had connected the usb cable to the mobo backwards so i fixed that and booted. Aquasuite didn't recognize my aquaero in windows. At this point i thought i had killed the usb port on the aquaero. Turned out i didn't connect the cable correctly and missed the furthest pin next to the temp sensors. There was a temp sensor cable blocking that final pin. Finally got that cable out of the way and got the usb cable in there correctly and everything worked. Glad i wasn't a victim of my own stupidity today.

I spent the rest of the day dialing in cpu overclocks. The delided cpu makes such a massive difference. With the exact same oc profile as my old setup using the same fan(fans at idle speeds) and pump profile i saw a 18c reduction in temps on the hottest and coldest cores. And thats only at 1.376v load and 4.7ghz. I tried for 5ghz earlier today and even at 1.5vc load my temps in x264 were in the low to mid 60s. Amazing.

Also my theory on cfm being more of an issue vs static pressure at high elevations turned out to be correct. By putting most of my rads in push/pull my water deltas now run between 2-3c while running FFXIV benchmark(test gets the water temps as hot as they'll ever get by looping it for an hour or so). Previously they were 6.5-7.5c with push only on my same performance fan/pump profile.
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Leak testing is done, no leaks after 20 hours. Time to get this thing running.


Halp. I am not good with computer.


Psu wiring done. Using stock cables until i make/sleeve my own next month.


Panels back on the case for the first time.



Rig back in its temporary home running ffxiv benchmark to make things hot.


Discovered with all 23 fans maxed out that i have way too much positive pressure. Only 2 fans exhausting, 3 if you count the psu. It was pushing air back through the two front intake fans, one of which i have my intake temp sensor in front of. Swapped that fan to exhaust, had to leave the top one as intake due to clearance issues with the Q fitting. Also had to move the temp sensor.


First place i tried was in front of the side rad. Radiant heat from the rad heated up the sensor pretty fast. So i moved it under the case. Still not the ideal spot for it as the underside of the case lacks airflow and i believe the sensor does suffer a bit from heatsoak. I'm a still a bit in disbelief as to how low my water deltas are. Going to try moving the sensor to the top to see if it makes a difference. It might not, this thing heats up an entire room rather quickly so the air around the case is always hot.



Water deltas.

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your build made me remember to listen to one of my favorite bands of all time.







Nice work so far.
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your build made me remember to listen to one of my favorite bands of all time.







Nice work so far.

yesssssss, someone here gets where the name came from band.gif

thanks, more to come in a few weeks when i start sleeving and i still need to get the dslr out and take some proper pics now that its running again.
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For the past week and a half i've had this thing running i have been battling constant stupid problems. First my brand new PSU had a faulty fan in it. Thing sounded like a vacuum cleaner every time it kicked on. Fortunately i bought it from amazon so replacement was hassle free and involved 0 downtime.

Then i had one of my ram sticks die on me... that was fun. NOT. It happened while i was dialing in an oc for the ram. Changed a secondary timing, went to reboot, q code 55. Hit the "memok" button on the mobo, still same code. Figured the ram must have gotten stuck on a bad oc as the current bios for this board is quite buggy.

So i drained the waterloop, pulled the gpus, pulled the m2 slot cover on the mobo, and popped the battery and discharged any remaining electricity. Put everything back together, still stuck on q code 55. Figured i must have killed a stick of ram, i had suspected one was going out for awhile now based on weird stuff that had been happening prior.

So i drained the loop yet again and refilled it, this time bypassing the ram using soft tube. Started testing individual sticks, turns out one was in fact dead. Can't rma since it watercooled it and took the stock heatspreaders off. So i bought 2 new sticks of the same TZ ram from newegg and put the loop back together with just 2 sticks of ram running. The rig OCs a hellofalot better now. Running 4.95ghz on the cpu @1.456vc w/3501mhz ram @ 14-15-15-34-1 and only 1.4vdimm. This oc is 3 hour IBT stable and 2 hour SAT stable. That same overclock previously was not possible without nearly 1.5vdimm. Likely in part due to the imc getting overloaded and probably due to a bad ram stick.

Also while i was refilling the loop the final time i made an incredibly stupid mistake. I had filled the res near the top and then shut off the pumps with the top res port open. BIG MISTAKE. Blue coolant went flying out of the open port and coated everything.

So now i'm headed for yet another tear down and rebuild this weekend. I ordered a few different adapter fittings from ppcs, some 2 pin extentions for a couple temp probes, and a new primochill bending jig. Ram shows up from newegg tomorrow, ppcs stuff should be here today. I will be redoing nearly all the bends in the loop as i'm not happy with them. I'm hoping in conjunction with the monsoon mandrels i can finally pull off close together 90 degree bends without kinking.
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Rig as it currently sits, notice the quad ram block sitting on two pieces of ram.



Ram bypassed with soft tube for testing


The culprit


Leak testing before it exploded


Took this opportunity to dye the fluid a big darker with the new bottle of dye that came in


Leak testing done, had cleaned up the mess at this point


Some of the stuff that came out after the original tear down boxed up and ready to sell. These problems are eating into my cabling/sleeving budget. Ugh.


Old PSU ready to be sealed up and sent back to amazon


New psu in its new home. Completely silent now.


It wasn't all bad. I did get some time to play with overclocks. With not much effort I took some benchmarking records and i can still push the cpu further for higher scores. I expect to see 5.05-5.1ghz when i really push it hard for benching.



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What an epic looking machine. Nice clocks too brother!
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That way sucks about the bad ram, the multiple tear-downs, and most of all the coolant mess!

I do like to coolant a little darker. Keep up the great work, looks like you have a great over-clocker there too thumb.gif
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