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Honestly i expect all these problems and more so i'm not too bummed over it. Its just like heavily modifying a car. You change something, spend a a few weeks chasing down problems related to it all while throwing unexpected amounts of cash at it. Once its all running right again you change something else and start the process over again.

My hope after this weekend is that everything works like it should so i can enjoy it for a few weeks. I'll get all my overclocks dialed in, do some more benching and then its time to build cables and sleeve everything. That in itself is going to be a major project. I have very little experience crimping and soldering wires but it doesn't look overly difficult. Just tedious and time consuming.

I do love the darker blue as well btw. I think i might go a little darker still with it although i'm at that point of diminishing returns with the dye. Got about half of the second bottle left, might just dump the whole thing in.
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its dead. Not sure if a cheapo barrow 90 degree fitting failed or it somehow got loose but blue coolant has coated my entire case. Fairly certain it came from the front rad. Happened during leak testing. Not sure if any components are going to die because of it but its bad. Total system tear down and cleaning of every single component is needed. Including a complete tear down of the mobo including removing the armor, heatsinks, etc. I'm sure a few components are toasted, probably a few fans at the very least since they were running with the aquaero and pumps. Maybe a pump too.

I think i may just throw this thing in the closet and forget about it for awhile. My surgically repaired back can't take this amount of stress right now. It about killed me to get it all up and running again the past two days.

Pics don't show the extent of the coolant, there is a ton down below and its in every nook and cranny of the mobo.

    
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Oh man.....that really really sucks...so sorry to see that happen to you. My sympathies...
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yep it sucks, i kinda lost it last night when it exploded after i had worked non stop for two days. Caused myself to have a severe episode with my back afterwards because i overdid things and cleaning up the explosion sent my back pain levels over the edge. Recovery from this surgery is every bit as awful as i read about. 2.5 months since surgery and stuff like this is still happening.

Now that my mind is a bit clearer i'm not going to throw the thing in the closet, its just going to turn into a week or two(maybe three if i need parts) long project. Will probably work on it a 2-3 hours a day until its back together. Still need to find out the cause of it. Not sure if it was a fitting or its also possible the top rad has a hole in it. The fans were running at the time so it just sprayed blue coolant everywhere, its hard to know exactly where it was. I just know it came from near the top of the front rad.

First thing is getting the mobo cleaned up. Once i pull the plastic armor and heatsinks i'm pretty sure i can get to everything with a mf cloth and alcohol except one thing. The first ram slot got coolant in it. I can't get it out. Anyone have suggestions for cleaning out a ram slot?

Also, anyone know if any dried up coolant gets missed anywhere on the mobo if it'll still conduct electricity and cause a short?
    
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yep it sucks, i kinda lost it last night when it exploded after i had worked non stop for two days. Caused myself to have a severe episode with my back afterwards because i overdid things and cleaning up the explosion sent my back pain levels over the edge. Recovery from this surgery is every bit as awful as i read about. 2.5 months since surgery and stuff like this is still happening.

Now that my mind is a bit clearer i'm not going to throw the thing in the closet, its just going to turn into a week or two(maybe three if i need parts) long project. Will probably work on it a 2-3 hours a day until its back together. Still need to find out the cause of it. Not sure if it was a fitting or its also possible the top rad has a hole in it. The fans were running at the time so it just sprayed blue coolant everywhere, its hard to know exactly where it was. I just know it came from near the top of the front rad.

First thing is getting the mobo cleaned up. Once i pull the plastic armor and heatsinks i'm pretty sure i can get to everything with a mf cloth and alcohol except one thing. The first ram slot got coolant in it. I can't get it out. Anyone have suggestions for cleaning out a ram slot?

Also, anyone know if any dried up coolant gets missed anywhere on the mobo if it'll still conduct electricity and cause a short?

If I were you, once you get the MOBO and GPU out, reassemble the the loop, with all the water blocks included, minus the board or other circuitry that could get damaged. Fill the loop with plain distilled water and run the loop with both pumps at 100%. Hopefully with that much pressure you should be able to see were the loop is leaking and get it fixed.

As far as getting the motherboard cleaned, I'd pick up a pressurized spray bottle, like one of those that you can pressurize with a hand pump or something, fill it with 90% iso and spray the piss out of it. Hopefully the iso will loosen up any of the dried dye. Then give it another high pressure wash with distilled H2O and let it fully dry for a few days. I had to do this years ago. Maybe I just got lucky, after the dual washing it was like brand new.
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If I were you, once you get the MOBO and GPU out, reassemble the the loop, with all the water blocks included, minus the board or other circuitry that could get damaged. Fill the loop with plain distilled water and run the loop with both pumps at 100%. Hopefully with that much pressure you should be able to see were the loop is leaking and get it fixed.

As far as getting the motherboard cleaned, I'd pick up a pressurized spray bottle, like one of those that you can pressurize with a hand pump or something, fill it with 90% iso and spray the piss out of it. Hopefully the iso will loosen up any of the dried dye. Then give it another high pressure wash with distilled H2O and let it fully dry for a few days. I had to do this years ago. Maybe I just got lucky, after the dual washing it was like brand new.

thanks so much for the suggestion on the spray bottle with iso+di water, i will definitely try that.

Fortunately the mobo's armor saved it from a lot of the coolant mess. Its mostly contained to the upper right portion. I pulled the armor off this morning, was able to get a lot of the coolant out but not all of it. Used a thin mf cloth soaked in iso alcohol to clean out the ram slot and everything else. There are little tiny blue spots that are in just impossible spots so i hope your suggestion gets that crap loose.

I'm fairly certain i found the source of the leak. It was a fitting on the front rad that had gotten loose overtime. I think i know why it happened... its two 90s connected together so that i could use the top port on the res. When the res is full it sags down and the rubber hose on the bottom rests on top of the pump. I was constantly propping it back up every few days. Over time one of the 90s got loose from this constant movement and leaked when the res sagged slightly down while filling. It was literally the moment i got the loop full enough to turn both pumps up to 100%.

Top rad is bone dry so no holes in it. I tested the front rad fittings by plugging one side of the rad then blowing into the other side through a piece of tube and spraying water all around the fittings. No sound of air escaping or bubbling so i'm about 99% sure that what i described above was the cause. The fitting was very loose after i pulled the rad.

Pretty sure my bottom pump is still good, i seems it was spared from any direct coolant spray.

Several fans are toast, they make noise now when i spin them with my finger and they're just covered in blue coolant.

I'm about to say goodbye to the corsair fans entirely, i'm not ordering more to replace the ones that are toast. I'm just going to replace every rad fan with ek vardars. They fit my build better with the all black color, hopefully quieter too. I'm constantly hunting down random ticking noises with the corsair fans. The corsair fans are loud as hell in push/pull too.
    
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Yeah I stopped using Corsair fans a long time ago. It seemed that 1:3 always had a subtle ticking noise. Best of luck to you. Hope it turns out alright.
post #38 of 105
Ahh dood.. I'm sorry to hear your PC going kaput. Certainly hope that things will get better for you after 1-2 weeks with a clearer mind.
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Well it seems that this build is cursed. Yet another stick of ram died. New bios update from asus killed it.

Read this if you want to listen to me rant.

I got the rig running a couple days ago, everything was running perfectly. I was ready to do a big update and call phase 1 of this build finished later next week.

I decided today to update the bios to the newest 1601 version from 1504. 1504 was a buggy pile of crap which i had constant issues with(although once i got it booted into windows it was stable, mostly stupid little things). So i flashed the bios and everything went well until second boot. Went to do initial setup after the first boot and get it into raid mode and disable csm. Everything else was left at default settings. I go to reboot and it sends me into linux... I have a linux mint distro installed on a junk ssd partition for SAT ram stress testing.

So i boot out of linux and go back into the bios. My m.2 ssd is not being seen by the bios. All my other drives are though so i can't boot into windows, only linux. So i enable ahci and reboot. This time it refuses to let me into the bios and actually loads windows 10 in ahci mode. W T F. Without getting into too many details this now locks me out of booting into windows 10 in raid mode. W10 is not like W7 where you can change a registry value to get it to boot in raid mode. It requires a format and reinstall to get w10 to load in raid.

At this point i'm pissed as all hell because they've released yet another pos bios. They've fubar'd my boot drive and 500gigs worth of games will have to be downloaded and installed again after i reinstall w10. So i figure before i try rolling back to the previous bios or reinstalling w10 in raid mode i'll try out my overclocks and see if there are any stability improvements. I load my cpu oc and leave the ram with manually set rated ram overclocks along with sa/io settings i know to be stable and safe. XMP has NEVER worked on this motherboard EVER on ANY bios so i don't even bother trying it. I typically change the primaries, a few secondaries, and leave ram training enabled. Go to reboot, q code 41, won't boot. Clear the cmos. Q code 55, won't boot. Unplug it, plug it back in. Q code 55 won't boot. Clear cmos again, q code 41, won't boot. Restart again q code 55 won't boot. You get the picture.

Exact same thing happened last time a stick of ram died. So i drained the system and pulled 2 sticks of ram. Chose 2 at random since i have no idea which one died. I made the mistake of selling all my soft tube fittings and can no longer bypass the ram with making a needlessly complex acrylic tube to run from the cpu to the front rad. Fortunately draining and pulling the ram block is rather easy. Takes about 2 hours to drain, pull the block and refill. I put it all back together and the 2 sticks that are in work. I did a quick check with the 24 pin atx connected and cpu power connected as soon as the system was filled. It'll boot with the 2 current ram sticks.

I'm starting to suspect there is a bad ram slot that keeps killing pieces of ram. The dimm second closest to the cpu is the one i suspect that is killing them. If that is in fact the dead ram stick when i do more testing later i am taking this motherboard and throwing it in the dumpster where it belongs. I knew it was a bad idea buying an asus product. Their QC is godawful and now i'm paying for it. Over 20 builds in a 10 year period with gigabyte and not one problem. First build with an asus board, constant problems.
    
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Alright, so enough negativity and late night rants for awhile. Time to move forward.

This showed up today. I think that comes out to over 1771 cfm of airflow lol.


Soon...


Phase 1 completion and massive update in a few days. Will be updating the OP to reflect the current state of the build along with a more focused direction going forward.
    
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