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So recently i bought a Samsung S24E390HL (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-S24E390HL-Inch-HDMI-Monitor/dp/B00UHAX95G) as I am going to be buying a new 27" 1440p monitor in a few months and was wondering on how much better ips really is compared to TN panels. Everyone a;ways says, you cannot compare them etc etc etc, but i had to try it for myself. Now being a 23", backlight bleed is virtually completely non-existent.
I think this is due to the smaller panel, and the backlights not needing to be as powerful to light the entire panel.

As for the differences, i currently have a old Acer 24" 1920x1200 TN monitor a 2ms response glossy screen etc. My pc sits in a fairly dark corner so reflections are never an issue but what i can say is WOW.

My background is the new Audi R8 Plus, in Yellow and on the TN panel it looks really decent. Never any complaints, until i got the PLS and have them side by side.... OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everything just looks waay more in focus(played around with the background image as well to eliminate and scaling fuzzyness). There are small reflections you cannot even see on the TN panel. Everything just looks absolutely gorgeous. Colours are not hugely different though, but just the quality of the images are huge.

I was wondering about ghosting during gameplay and can say, that after about 10 hours of CS:GO, I have been missing out on soo much. The details are soo clear, and sharp. Its incredible.
There is absolutely 0 ghosting or lag at 60fps (v-sync on) and i just find it truly wonderful to use. Its sooo easy on the eyes and i can say its leagues ahead of the TN panels ive used, ranging from newish to old. There are all not hugely different.
This however is in a different league.

Basically what im saying, is i will never go back to a TN panel again haha
   
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You're comparing 2 screens with 2 different native resolutions, no wonder there are 'detail' differences as well as color (?) differences ?
 
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Putting my QNIX QX2710 next to my friends BenQ XL2420T and the difference is massive. This thing brings everything alive compared to that grey TN panel.

There is just no going back to TN after you have experienced better. And the QNIX has best of all worlds so it is just fantastic.
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i dunno man, 'gaming' monitors are often color configured to have 'bad' colors for 'good' responsivness.
 
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exactly my point. My TN panel at 24" has 94.34ppi
The samsung has 93.34 PPI
Ie my IPS has ever so slightly less pixels per inch, yet looks 10x sharper and clearer. I have spent 100s of hours gaming on my TN panel and on the IPS its sooo clear and sharp and accurate i cannot compare them at all.
   
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Originally Posted by MadjinnSayan View Post

i dunno man, 'gaming' monitors are often color configured to have 'bad' colors for 'good' responsivness.

They are not "configured" for bad colors, it is just how TN is. TN Panel will never have good colors. Propably why high refresh rate TN monitors are so cheap these days aswell, no one would buy them anymore when you can get 1440p IPS 120Hz monitors aswell for almost the same money.

Back when I bought my QNIX, I sold my BenQ XL2420T for 240€, which is what you pay for a new similiar monitor today! And it was over a year old aswell back then.
Paid like 70€ extra to get my QNIX to replace it then.
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exactly my point. My TN panel at 24" has 94.34ppi
The samsung has 93.34 PPI
Ie my IPS has ever so slightly less pixels per inch, yet looks 10x sharper and clearer. I have spent 100s of hours gaming on my TN panel and on the IPS its sooo clear and sharp and accurate i cannot compare them at all.
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10+ ppi is about the difference between a 27" 1080p and 1440p (edit 25+ is, here 15 ppi diff )

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They are not "configured" for bad colors, it is just how TN is. TN Panel will never have good colors. Propably why high refresh rate TN monitors are so cheap these days aswell, no one would buy them anymore when you can get 1440p IPS 120Hz monitors aswell for almost the same money.

Back when I bought my QNIX, I sold my BenQ XL2420T for 240€, which is what you pay for a new similiar monitor today! And it was over a year old aswell back then.
Paid like 70€ extra to get my QNIX to replace it then.

Some are actually factory calibrated with ridiculous gama values, like my XL2411Z. Had some really washed out look, and required me to raise contrast to 80 and lower color channel intensity to not crush the bright colors from the 80 contrast. After that, it looked nearly as good as my NEC eIPS. Of course there's still the color shift issue but you get used to that. thumb.gif

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Quote:
grey TN panel

Sounds like a calibration issue to me. I heard the panel the xl2411z (and I think the XL2420T) uses is sometimes calibrated with 80 contrast when used in some non-Benq monitors, so that's that. (benq opted for 50 for some reason?)
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Some are actually factory calibrated with ridiculous gama values, like my XL2411Z. Had some really washed out look, and required me to raise contrast to 80 and lower color channel intensity to not crush the bright colors from the 80 contrast (which in turn lowered max brightness). After that, it looked nearly as good as my NEC eIPS. Of course there's still the color shift issue but you get used to that. thumb.gif
this is what i meant by 'configured'
 
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An interesting comparison, with an 8-bit TN panel, calibrate + Color Vibrance.
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