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You know, I should really do some research, before rambling off on the forums…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1EoFWrD3lE
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Fury-X-vs-NVIDIA-GTX-980-Ti-2-and-3-Way-Multi-GPU-Performance/Power-Consu
so, I found this PCPER video on you tube, while doing a random search for crossfire fury (in case I go two way to spice things up…lol) and I was pleasantly surprised to see it really extolling the virtues of crossfire over sli both in scaling and frame times (and pretty much condemning anyone stupid enough to run tri-fire or tri sli/ quad sli, given the current state of the drivers..lol) . I am not sure how many other folks like me are out there (clueless and ignorant about AMD and still stuck with the negative crossfire perceptions formed back in 2013) who have, or are in the process of re-evaluating their next gpu purchase, but if I were AMD, I would be hammering home any advantages that I may have relative to my competitor, over and over and over again, if nothing else just to educate the prospective customers. Consumers are a finicky bunch many don’t have the time to do a lot of research before making an informed decision…lol
I would also really appreciate it if any longtime AMD users would be kind enough to pm me any tips on how and what of AMD cards, and phrase it as if they were talking to a kindergartener (seriously.. lol). I don’t blame the red team members for being cautious considering my pro nvidia purchase bias to date, and willingness to bring up issues even if meant hurting the resale value of my own investment in some of this hardware..lol, but I can use a little help to get educated on amd stuff smile.gif ) So, no offense to my fellow Nvidia enthusiasts, or hurt feelings...lol (I think many already know that I am selfish, and look after my own best interest as a consumer, before caring for a brand or brands…lol) as I believe that AMD will bring more to the table based on what I want, and I understand that others may disagree. smile.gif





Apologies in advance to OP and everyone for a OT post, but it seemed topical
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Okay, but each one does have an apples to apple comparison as well, along with what you stated in your previous post that you'd have done it based on the fps a card would hit given the settings, they went the other way around and saw what setting were playable enough on what cards at a particular resolution. Then how is it still not apples to apples
yeah the "highest playable settings" is a neat idea too, but they should've included an interactive comaprison of pictures with a slider. That'd be great and very objective. I see they aim for 50 fps avg rather than 55 fps min like I would, but still better test than most.
however, all this review proves is that we need big polarios and pascal asap if we wanna play at ultra settings with steady 60 fps at 1440p.
CF scaling is nuts, if only AMD could make that happen in every AAA title I'd have been sold long ago.
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Hmmm, but its not that you're getting the same from Nvidia ATM (good scaling in every game). CFX profile though I'd say they need to push updates on major releases, but then again you and me would be playing that 1 game for a period before we move to next but AMD (Nvidia also) has to create profiles for each game that is to be released. Waiting to see what Polaris brings to the table. If the performance bump is great (~ 30% more than my CFX'd 7950's) I may jump on them or continue to chug along until they breath their final breath.
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Hmmm, but its not that you're getting the same from Nvidia ATM (good scaling in every game). CFX profile though I'd say they need to push updates on major releases, but then again you and me would be playing that 1 game for a period before we move to next but AMD (Nvidia also) has to create profiles for each game that is to be released. Waiting to see what Polaris brings to the table. If the performance bump is great (~ 30% more than my CFX'd 7950's) I may jump on them or continue to chug along until they breath their final breath.
I'm pretty sure an oc'd 980Ti is already faster than CF 7950. Maybe even 30%. I mean 980Ti before I oc'd almost doubled the fps I was getting on 290 1100/1600 in The Witcher 3 (from around 50 to more than 90). IDK whether you realize how much faster these new cards are, 980Ti was a huge performance increase even from 980 G1. Take a look at how close OC'd 980Ti is to 980 SLI.

Edited by Klocek001 - 2/15/16 at 8:25am
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Did they ever say which section they tested in? CPU overhead is a serious issue in Soviet Installation, wonder if they did any testing there.
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But most people buy the special OC version's

This information is sourced from where?
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Patches and Performance

One thing is for sure and that is the Rise of the Tomb Raider developers are not wasting time sitting around on their hands. In the last couple of weeks, we have seen two performance and feature patches issued for Rise of the Tomb Raider. The first patch on February 5th was significant enough in terms of performance that we had to scrap all of our original data and start over. Three days ago we did see another patch as well that addressed, "Various performance improvements for GPU-bound situations." We did go back and test with this patch and found that it primarily impacts SLI at 4K resolution. We saw SLI at 4K increase framerates from 5% to 7%. This however did not influence gameplay to where we could further image quality settings. Single GTX 980 performance increased 1% to 2% at 1440p resolution, so nothing significant.

As with any Tomb Raider performance review, you gotta be very careful and check what patch the game was tested on. Great for end-users, but I have to think any reviewer is going to be duplicating their efforts with performance patches making their previous results outdated haha tongue.gif
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Hmmm, but its not that you're getting the same from Nvidia ATM (good scaling in every game). CFX profile though I'd say they need to push updates on major releases, but then again you and me would be playing that 1 game for a period before we move to next but AMD (Nvidia also) has to create profiles for each game that is to be released. Waiting to see what Polaris brings to the table. If the performance bump is great (~ 30% more than my CFX'd 7950's) I may jump on them or continue to chug along until they breath their final breath.
I'm pretty sure an oc'd 980Ti is already faster than CF 7950. Maybe even 30%. I mean 980Ti before I oc'd almost doubled the fps I was getting on 290 1100/1600 in The Witcher 3 (from around 50 to more than 90). IDK whether you realize how much faster these new cards are, 980Ti was a huge performance increase even from 980 G1. Take a look at how close OC'd 980Ti is to 980 SLI.

Yea, but I was more thinking with regards to having ~30% more power than the 980ti at sub $300 part. Sure one can dream, but I decided against getting Maxwell due to it being still on 28nm nor did I go AMD for Hawaii or Fiji due to same as well as getting these a month before the 980 dropped so I decided to ride these.
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Yea, but I was more thinking with regards to having ~30% more power than the 980ti at sub $300 part. Sure one can dream, but I decided against getting Maxwell due to it being still on 28nm nor did I go AMD for Hawaii or Fiji due to same as well as getting these a month before the 980 dropped so I decided to ride these.
oh yes if that's what you mean then sure.
well, I think this will be possible with nex gen, but there's a shadow of a doubt. I think a lot depends on GDDR5X price and availability.
how's CF working out for you ? if you could sell them for a nice price then add a little you could get a 290X 8GB and that'll hold you fine until HBM2 comes to mid range cards. I already decided I ain't buying a DDR5 (X) card even if that means I'm riding that 980Ti till Volta.
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Yea, but I was more thinking with regards to having ~30% more power than the 980ti at sub $300 part. Sure one can dream, but I decided against getting Maxwell due to it being still on 28nm nor did I go AMD for Hawaii or Fiji due to same as well as getting these a month before the 980 dropped so I decided to ride these.
oh yes if that's what you mean then sure.
well, I think this will be possible with nex gen, but there's a shadow of a doubt. I think a lot depends on GDDR5X price and availability.
how's CF working out for you ? if you could sell them for a nice price then add a little you could get a 290X 8GB and that'll hold you fine until HBM2 comes to mid range cards. I already decided I ain't buying a DDR5 (X) card even if that means I'm riding that 980Ti till Volta.

I could but I don't see the benefit of investing in the 290x even used. These cards work great for when they work and any additional features that the Hawaii & Fiji silicon provide require me upgrade my hardware which if I am going to do, why not wait out for next gen with newer / better tech and features. Besides, VR is where is at, so I need to consider even that
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