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Plus posting a picture of a famous painting is grounds for copyright infringement, unless he had permission.

Well that's a pretty general assumption. I don't know what the copyright laws are in France but here in the States that painting would not likely have any copyright because of it's age. Also, depending on the context of the post, it may even be perfectly legal with a copyright protected work.


You are right, there is no copyright for that painting nor the photographic reproduction of it, it's in the public domain since it was painted by French artist Gustave Courbet in 1866.
 
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Another entertaining thread brought to you by Masked. jerry.gif

Honestly, it's no longer that entertaining. It usually plays out where he comes to argue something fairly obvious/trivial, gets burned, and then never returns. Getting old IMHO

On topic: If FB wants to be available internationally, they need to ensure their actions abide by the laws in each of the countries their site is accessible in. Pretty simple
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Another entertaining thread brought to you by Masked. jerry.gif

Since when did asking for proof become so "entertaining"?

Oh, that's right, when the OP, pretends nobody asked the question all morning then provides links that date back nearly a decade ago.

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Honestly, it's no longer that entertaining. It usually plays out where he comes to argue something fairly obvious/trivial, gets burned, and then never returns. Getting old IMHO

On topic: If FB wants to be available internationally, they need to ensure their actions abide by the laws in each of the countries their site is accessible in. Pretty simple

rolleyes.gif All I asked for was proof.

He alleged this was happening constantly - It's not.

God, asking for proof is getting old? Wonder what you say to Jehova's Witnesses...rolleyes.gif

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Of course you did. You weren't disputing in your first post what you are disputing now.

Well, I knew this was already surreal, but you could do without bringing in an alien meat example lol.

Anyway, you want proof, here goes then:

rolleyes.gif Only one of your sources is less than 5 years old...And it was in clear violation of the law.

Again, reread what you've submitted from an objective viewpoint. The rhetoric in your posts, leaves someone to believe that this is commonplace. That EULAs and TOSs are abused on a daily basis - The truth is they're not. They're few and far between because of the last decade of litigation. Therefor, there are not MANY current examples of EULA/TOS infringement.

I haven't changed my stance, once.

I agree with your premise.

I disagree with the mentality that this is commonplace...That EULAs exist to "screw" us as you make them out to be, because it's factually untrue.
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I don't even get the fuss you guys are making about this headscratch.gif

Isn't it as simple as that if you agree to a EULA you are basically contracting with another party? If aspects of that contract/agreement violate the law of the country you live in you can either neglegt that aspect or the whole contract.
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I'm confused with how this is even a legal issue.

Facebook isnt a right, or even a paid service. I would think that FB could suspend anyone's account for any reason without any legal implications.

If FB suspends my account am I really harmed in any way?

Had Facebook suspended without giving a reason, and just said it was within their right, they probably would have been fine. However, they listed a specific reason and violation, and thus were challenged on it.

As a provider we can refuse to service anyone, for any reason. We just, typically, can't state why. If we do, it becomes open to challenge.
    
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Why censor a picture of a painting in the first place? Lol.

It is a bit ridiculous to ignore local laws and then essentially say "Don't like it? Then come to the U.S courts". A lot of people use Facebook/social media to boost their businesses and build a following, just suspending someones account for no reason isn't right. If Facebook think the U.S laws/courts are the only ones that matter, then they should only do business in that country.
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You are right, there is no copyright for that painting nor the photographic reproduction of it, it's in the public domain since it was painted by French artist Gustave Courbet in 1866.

Museum/Gallery Property is exempt from public domain. For example Art Collections are considered their own Copyright. Therefore if the said painting is apart of a collection then it is not Public Domain. Same can be said for Showcases of old artifacts etc.
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Why censor a picture of a painting in the first place? Lol.

There is a large section of US society that quite fearful of nudity, censorship of nudity is a very acceptable practice here.
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Museum/Gallery Property is exempt from public domain. For example Art Collections are considered their own Copyright. Therefore if the said painting is apart of a collection then it is not Public Domain. Same can be said for Showcases of old artifacts etc.

It still comes down to the context in which the image was posted. It could easily fall under fair use, without know what was written along with the posting of the image it is hard to say if it would violate copyright laws.
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