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If you are not gonna be overclocking at all don't buy a K processor, the difference between the K and non K version is only that is unlocked and a some buck more on the price. So save those for a aftermarket cooler or to buy a bigger case.

If i were you i would by:

i7 4970 (if you want to keep your RAM)
or
i7 6700 (if you gonna buy new RAM and go with DDR4)

H97 motherboard that have the things you need (mind size of the motherboard and brand)
or
H110 motherboard if going with Skylake (the same recommendation, size and brand)

If you only need 1 PCI slot of the GPU and don't have any other card you could go with a ITX motherboard and buy a smaller case, something like a Silverstone SG13B that can fit an ATX PSU without problem.

For cooling if you are going on the ITX route you should buy an CORSAIR H80i GT. If not with a 212 EVO you should have enought.

Cheers.
So I shouldn't get the motherboard Farih was recommending? Also, do you recommend upgrading my RAM or keeping it?
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My suggestion is to get a 4690k, Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 5, and a basic CPU cooler like the Cooler Master 212. It's not much, but you will be able to get a basic overclock of at least 4.2GHz, which will be better than a stock i7 in most ways. Also, since you have a prebuilt and will be upgrading the motherboard, you will need a new Windows key.
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Overclocking and all that stuff has always seemed to scary for me, I'm too afraid to break something. Also I have no idea how to set up cooling. I only picked that tower because of Ratings and I thought it looked good. So I'm open to suggestions. Also the other guy said to go for a big tower for better airflow.

Better airflow matters more if you're overclocking. If you're not going to be overclocking, you could save yourself some money by not buying components needed only for overclocking.

* no need for a K processor
* no need for a Z chipset board, get an H chipset board
(https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Z170-H170-H110-B170-Q150-Q170---What-is-the-Difference-635/)
* no need for high airflow case
* no need for aftermarket cooler

But... it's not scary really and you're not likely to break anything.

The bios's user interfaces generally will warn you if you are trying to set something really out of whack. The cpu itself will defend against getting too hot by running at a snails pace or shutting itself down. It's a fun hobby and you can get a massive performance boost out of your pc. I've added 1Ghz to my cpu clock so it runs at 4.4 instead of 3.4 Ghz when all cores are in use. It's unmistakably faster this way.

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Just my 2 cents:

4790K comes without a cooler, from own experience.
    
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So I shouldn't get the motherboard Farih was recommending? Also, do you recommend upgrading my RAM or keeping it?

Going for a Z board with a non K procesor is wasting money, unless you like a board for the look. Between DDR3 and DDR4 there is almost no difference at normal usage, so its better to keep it and use that money somewhere else. Also between i7 4790/4770 and a i7 6700 there is like 5% difference in performance, IMO not worth the need to change the ram and spend more.
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Just my 2 cents:

4790K comes without a cooler, from own experience.

It does come with the stock Intel cooler, but that cooler almost can't keep with the TDP of the processor, at stock speed and voltage on full load it will run around 90°.
Edited by NvNw - 2/15/16 at 12:51pm
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Going for a Z board with a non K procesor is wasting money, unless you like a board for the look. Between DDR3 and DDR4 there is almost no difference at normal usage, so its better to keep it and use that money somewhere else. Also between i7 4790/4770 and a i7 6700 there is like 5% difference in performance, IMO not worth the need to change the ram and spend more.
It does come with the stock Intel cooler, but that cooler almost can't keep with the TDP of the processor, at stock speed and voltage on full load it will run around 90°.
Since several people are recommending overclocking. What should I get for overclocking then? Nothing much but maybe like 1GHZ? Unless that's much, I literally have no idea. Also I've heard that overclocking a CPU can shorten it's lifetime quite a bit.
Edited by T4lyX - 2/15/16 at 1:20pm
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Since several people are recommending overclocking. What should I get for overclocking then? Nothing big but like 1GHZ or something.

your current ddr3 ram are 1333mhz sticks, you'll probably want to upgrade that too so i wouldn't let your existing memory influence what platform you go with
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Since several people are recommending overclocking. What should I get for overclocking then? Nothing big but like 1GHZ or something.

1ghz it's a lot of overclock, the 4790k it comes overclocked 4.4ghz and after that every 100 mhz needs a lot of voltage and will make a lot of heat, to reach to 5ghz and get it stable you probably need a custom water loop at least. A 4790 will run at 4ghz and it's more than enought for almost all the uses, the 4790k it's only overclocked 10%. It's not that much for the difference in price.

If you are short in money and don't really need the extra speed I would stick with the non overclockable cpu and motherboard, you will save like 100 to 150 dollars that you can spend on other things that make more difference at the everyday usage, like a SSD or a better gpu.
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1ghz it's a lot of overclock, the 4790k it comes overclocked 4.4ghz and after that every 100 mhz needs a lot of voltage and will make a lot of heat, to reach to 5ghz and get it stable you probably need a custom water loop at least. A 4790 will run at 4ghz and it's more than enought for almost all the uses, the 4790k it's only overclocked 10%. It's not that much for the difference in price.

If you are short in money and don't really need the extra speed I would stick with the non overclockable cpu and motherboard, you will save like 100 to 150 dollars that you can spend on other things that make more difference at the everyday usage, like a SSD or a better gpu.


If you stick with non-K cpu and an H motherboard, I'd suggest the 4790 too. It's basically a factory overclocked cpu already.
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