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Yeah, i can understand the purpose of higher pixel density with considerably bigger screens such as TVs, now what about PC monitors than range from 24" to $1000+ 32" ones ? Does anyone in OCN actually use the latter ones ?

Btw were you guys using 27" or 24" for testing DSR ?
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Look into,

Crossover 324K

Those are 32" 4k Korean monitors. Should be much more affordable then name brand 32" 4k.


Personally I don't trust Korean monitors, but, a lot of people love them.


The common complaint I see with smaller 4k monitors are the pixel density is so large that text is very hard to read without scaling. Even on that 32" you're dealing with pretty tight ppi (137) for comfortable reading.

A dpi calculator.
https://www.sven.de/dpi/


For reference, a 27" 1440p has a dip of 110 and is considered comfortable to read for most while still being clear and sharp.
     
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Yeah, i can understand the purpose of higher pixel density with considerably bigger screens such as TVs, now what about PC monitors than range from 24" to $1000+ 32" ones ? Does anyone in OCN actually use the latter ones ?

Btw were you guys using 27" or 24" for testing DSR ?

I've experimented with it on 23.6", 23.8", 24", 27", and 32" models. It's something I always test on the side simply for the sake of curiosity. But frankly it's rubbish regardless of screen size and no substitute for an actual higher pixel density nor something I would recommend people use for desktop purposes.

As for the optimal size for UHD, it depends on one's preferences and eyesight. But for me I find ~32" to be excellent. Perfectly useable for me without needing scaling whilst making great use of the pixel density - 40" spreads it too thinly, so to speak, as the pixel density is equivalent to a 27" WQHD model.
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Hmm ok, now is the difference between 1080p and 1440p at 27" that noticeable also ?
 
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Hmm ok, so is they difference between 1080p and 1440p at 27" that noticeable also ?

1080p looks ugly once you've witnessed 1440p or 4k smile.gif
   
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Hmm, is my test with the s4 wrong then ?
 
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Hmm ok, now is the difference between 1080p and 1440p at 27" that noticeable also ?

In desktop yes. Very.

In gaming, I didn't notice a huge difference between 1440p and 1080p until I used a 1080p again for gaming on.

*You can't use a tiny screen for comparing res. Even low res looks clear and crisp on a small screen such as a phone.
     
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In desktop yes. Very.

In gaming, I didn't notice a huge difference between 1440p and 1080p until I used a 1080p again for gaming on.

*You can't use a tiny screen for comparing res. Even low res looks clear and crisp on a small screen such as a phone.
Even witha 4k source pic zoomed so the fruits(yes) looked as big on both screens ? (Thats what i did) maybe try it guys the result may be the same if you have an ok phone.
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Even witha 4k source pic zoomed so the fruits(yes) looked as big on both screens ? (Thats what i did) maybe try it guys the result may be the same if you have an ok phone.

Moving from 1080p to 1440p on the same size screen will make you feel like you have a lot more breathing room.

I'd suggest taking your current screen, running it at 720p. Feel how limited the desktop space feels. That's how 1080p will feel after you move to 1440p. By the time you get to 4k you start feeling like you have more desktop space then you need.
     
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Yeah honestly i made that thread to understand why people used 1440p/4k and not DSR 4k to have that effect on 27".
Maybe someday i'll try to compare in a shop or smth, the question was really "is DSR 4k at 27" 150% scaling +cleartype usable or not?"

Now on to the interesting stuff: is the 'clarity' in games related to the higher DPI or the effects of upsampling (jaggies,textures).
Maybe try to compare 3 (zoomed in ?) Screenshots from a 1440p and a DSR 2X and 4X 1080p screen, on the latter on and feedback pls
Explanation http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=509076
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