Originally Posted by SuperZan
It's not that I disagree with what you're saying. I do agree with the bolded statements. However from a marketing standpoint it's rather illustrative that Intel HD graphics/laptops/sub3GHz processors are so prevalent. Gaming may be a large market but dedicated tower PC gaming is just a slice of that pie, and high-end, custom-built PC gaming is a smaller slice still. So regarding what @cssorkinman
is wondering about in terms of adoption I think is quite important as a question. It kind of ties into @p4inkill3r
's issues with some of the purpose-marketed pre-builts. Those systems, which the population at large are more likely to purchase than most of us enthusiast types, are designed around the minimum requirements. Who knows how relevant they'll even be with AAA, VR-compatible games in the near future?
Enthusiasts like us may be enough to make something like Oculus profitable, but we're not enough to register VR as 'popular' any time soon IMO.
I agree completely we are a very small segment, however the bleeding edge often has those issues. This is why consoles are still so popular, you cant play The Wicther 3 on integrated graphics, even a cheap end GPU like a 960 will struggle to play that game, and you may find playing it on console would be a better alternative.
We see the same thing with 4k, according to the steam survey the majority of users systems could not play 4k video must less 4k games of any sort. In a few years that will change but as of today, its bleeding edge.
Originally Posted by Fyrwulf
Truly? I'm typing this from the same laptop that I play MWO on. Granted, everything is on low and I dearly wish I had a much larger screen, hence why I'm building a Zen/Polaris comp, but sacrifices must be made.
I should have changed my phraseology to be more politically correct, as League and Minecraft are games and the people that play them are very serious about them. They are in fact Gamers, just with a different genre of game. So apologies to anyone that I may have offended with that comment, I will try to devise a way to say what I mean more politically correct, in the future.
Now that is settled, you fall into this genre of gamer, MWO has extremely low system requirements and has a very close genre to that of an MMO. MMOs, Dotas, Indies, ect, these games are made to have support for the most amount of people possible. As they rely on tons of people playing them to make money from them, these games also do not usually make there way to consoles which further impacts there need for a large PC use base.
However that is a completely different world, my laptop is not very good, however I can play League, Smite, WOW and Archeage on it, The Witcher 3, DAI, AC5 not a chance in hell.
There is a major difference between the Genre of very low requirement games with large online user bases, and single player AAA titles. For the record I play those kinds of games as well, I play all the games above, I am just saying there is a difference (and again Real Gamers, was really the wrong wording).
Okay so back on track, it is a long way off before WOW or League gets VR, AAA titles are a more fitting place for VR to aim atm. So its like comparing apples to oranges, as the people that play that genre will have little to no need for VR, the ones that need VR or will want it, will fall more into the Single Player experience.
I also before someone says it, relize there is "Gaming Laptops", however they are a niche, they are very expensive and have a small niche of people that should be using them. I had a freind that was frequently in different states (LIke every couple of weeks) for his work. He would go from motel to motel lugging a big ole desktop and monitor ect, just to game, he had a very good reason to have one of those gaming laptops. They are decent for gaming, however they are much more expensive then a desktop, and will never be as powerful so outside of an absolute travel need, they serve little point, anyways due to them being so expensive I doubt much of the steam survey consists of them.
I understand what you are saying, however my point is you don't know fall into the genre of VR, your laptop will not play Crysis 3 at all. It is a different market consisting of different needs, and in the market will VR is aimed, a laptop or integrated graphics dell prebuilt are not going to work VR or not.
That was kinda what I meant by the steam survey not proving accurate, the majority of those users that have those lower end systems are not playing AAA Single Player Titles, and if they are, they are most likely playing those on PS4, XB1. As a major chunk of that surveys user base could not even run a AAA game at any settings.