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Thanks man!

One more question, as you mentioned the headphones, is it possible to use your own without messing something up? Im quite sure my Pioneers are able to out perform them as well.

 

Vive uses packaged low end IEMs that are the bare minimum. So you can immediately chuck those into the nearest garbage can for recycling to pick up. The OR headphones snap onto the band of the headset. You can remove them and plug your own headphones in.

 

For both cases though, I recommend IEMs over headphones for a couple of reasons:

 

1) Much more lightweight, so they are less of an immersion breaker.

 

2) Interfere less with the HMD headbands (unless you are talking about on-ear headphones, which get uncomfortable after a couple of hours of use)

 

3) I'm an IEM geek, won't lie that I'm a bit biased there :thumb:!

 

 

Here is a video of the headphone removal on the CV1:

 

 

 

 

Oh, and I did forget to mention that the FOV on the Vive was actually a bit better than the OR. Noticeably better. Just the fresnel lenses on it were a bit less polished overall in design than the OR.


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True. At 1440p or higher you are rarely going to cpu bound in dx11 games and probably not ever in dx12 games...

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My 290X is my bottleneck. Pretty sure it would still be my bottleneck even if I went crossfire.
    
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Whether the CPU or GPU bottleneck is most relevant to the screen resolution. Your statement is very vague and would only apply to a few certain situations at certain resolutions.
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True. At 1440p or higher you are rarely going to cpu bound in dx11 games

No, this misconception exists because people usually run games way worse at 1440p than at 1080p. It's actually slightly more CPU demanding to run 1440p@100fps than 1080p@100fps.

A huge amount of games are CPU bound in dx11 even with 6700k/5960x's, especially when you value raw performance over visual fidelity.
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No, this misconception exists because people usually run games way worse at 1440p than at 1080p. It's actually slightly more CPU demanding to run 1440p@100fps than 1080p@100fps.

A huge amount of games are CPU bound in dx11 even with 6700k/5960x's, especially when you value raw performance over visual fidelity.

Thought that was more GPU and it's pixel fillrate. Typically the better the pixel fill the better it is for higher resolution. I run a lot of games with no impact by resolution, but you do a physx power game and suddenly I'm crushed.
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What API is the Vive test using?
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No, this misconception exists because people usually run games way worse at 1440p than at 1080p. It's actually slightly more CPU demanding to run 1440p@100fps than 1080p@100fps.

A huge amount of games are CPU bound in dx11 even with 6700k/5960x's, especially when you value raw performance over visual fidelity.

Sorry but more pixels requires more GPU which creates a GPU bottleneck at higher resolutions. It's definitely not a misconception, but logic and simple math. The load shifts more to the GPU when more pixels are used, because after all, it does process and draw the pixels.

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Thought that was more GPU and it's pixel fillrate. Typically the better the pixel fill the better it is for higher resolution. I run a lot of games with no impact by resolution, but you do a physx power game and suddenly I'm crushed.

Framerate is directly related to resolution. I can't believe I even have to say this. If you notice no difference, you are capped or don't run a high enough resolution to tell.
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I must say, that is actually quite impressive! I hope this hold true in actual testing...would really make for a great budget build for VR.

Actually I recommend the Athlon x4 845. It's cheap, it's incredibly fast it's actually being speculated as a better chip to the i3 processors. No one has tested any OCing, but it seems to be limited by the BCLK control.
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Anybody have any ideas?

Turns out it was some weird incompatibility with Afterburner. Closed AB, and the test ran just fine. Test is buggy? thinking.gif

Anyway here's my result


Afterburner crashes that program hard

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My 290X is my bottleneck. Pretty sure it would still be my bottleneck even if I went crossfire.


huh!! thinking.gif you're kidding right?
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Seems like even venerable AMD 1055T is "capable" with about 3% of the frames being CPU bound.

Do not pay attention to the lowly 6770 Eyefinity 5 card in that rig painted all red. I just wanted to see what would it say if I would run that Steam VR test on it. Edit: I'll add that some of the AMD CPU's in this thread have posted better scores with similar GFX cards than a i7-3820@4.3 GHz + 390X at stock settings is for me. I'll add a screenshot for that test as well just for reference:

Edited by Carniflex - 2/23/16 at 4:36am
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It's definitely not a misconception, but logic and simple math.

You don't understand there - the misconception is that because GPU load increases, it makes CPU load decrease as well. That's not true.

CPU load will actually stay the same or go up if you maintain FPS but increase resolution like a lot of people do today and like people will do for VR headsets.
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