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I doubt it. 1620 v1 was unlocked, but the two 1620 v2's I both tested were locked. I would assume the v3 is the same.
Thanks. But not assumption. I need answers from who actually tested it.
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I know that the 1620 v3 can be pushed to 3.6 GHz (which is basically nothing unfortunately) using the sync all cores with turbo options on Asus X99 boards (perhaps on other boards too, I'm not sure), but that's as far as you can go without messing with the base clock. The multiplier is locked on this chip.
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Got a decent deal for an Asrock EP2C612 WS. Flashed with P2.10, which AFAIK is the only BIOS that supports V4 chips. It runs nicely with just one ES; but with two it halts at post code 79, for some reason. It's not frozen it seems, it just won't go any further. I do get a POST screen. With my V3 ES's... it's fine. SSPECS are QFSB for the V3's and QHZB for the V4's.

Any tips?
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I'm having a really hard time finding a good deal for a x79 board still. There's this guy who gave me an offer of €375 for his Gigabyte GA-X79-UD5 (No box & WiFi stuff), i7 3930K and 32GB of Corsair XMS 3 DDR3.

Does anyone here have experience with this motherboard?

If I decide to buy this I'll have 16GBs - 32GBs of RAM and an i7 3930K to sell. I reckon the 3930K goes for about €130 around here, not sure about the RAM though. What do you guys say about this deal, would you personally do it? Anything else I should keep in mind?
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My UD3 doesn't work with spicy V4 ES (V3's are fine), it seems. Not sure if relevant for UD5.
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I'm going to run an E5 1650 so that's not a problem I suppose.
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Point is, if you can get the motherboard -only-, go for it. I paid mine 130€.

Going xeon means you can go ECC, like my machine, between cpu and ram I spent something like 110€ for an E5-1650 and 16gb of ECC DDR3 memory.

Coming back to this thread, today something came in the mail...



At default frequency (3.3 GHz) it holds on under stress up to 0.95V, a pretty good starting point...

So, I decided to see how much could I pull this cpu's neck, and got stable at 4.3GHz @ 1.22V. There is still quite some margin given the voltage, but my cooler (hyper212+) got the cpu into an unsafe 85-86°C area, so I decided to avoid pushing it further up. Still, 30% clock increase is nothing bad.



Then I ran Cinebench, and it hit quite hard... 1097 points, a good improvement upon my old 1620 which did 770 points at full 4.5Ghz!



Now, having seen this, and being the usual lucker on cpus, I think I will just roll it back to 4 GHz and see what vcore I can run it stable daily.
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There is no way I can get an x79 board here for under €200 though, which is why I need to buy a kit and sell off the rest. I won't get as lucky as DoctorAsBest who got his UD3 for €60 after selling the other stuff that came with it, unfortunately.. tongue.gif

Is ECC memory cheaper than non-ECC memory? Actually, The Gigabyte X79-UD5 does not seem to support ECC memory so I guess it doesn't matter.

Those are some good prices you've got there! I'm really looking forward to the day I can finally build my X79 computer..

Does the 1650 really run that hot? Looks like I need a more expensive cooler if I want to push it, hehe.
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In my case, my 1650 (set it into the mb 3 hours ago) has run quite hotter than the 1620, it hit 85°C at 1.22V/4.3GHz while the 1620 hit that temperature at 4.625Ghz / 1.36V...

Still, nothing to cry about, it's a six core compared to a quad, with much more raw power to offer. I'm considering 4 Ghz daily as a good compromise, on perhaps 1.1V or something alike.

As you're searching for an used MB... have you got a big forum with a good marketplace in the Netherlands? patience is the way... I have seen many MB's selling for 160-200€ even on ebay, but sooner or later someone will puch down his price and you'll be the first to reply. I did that very thing on an Italian forum smile.gif

As ECC vs non ECC... I tried after buying it, not knowing it was registered ECC... I paid 27€ for 16Gb DDR3-1333. Not the fastest, but still performs well in quad channel, and I cannot say anything about the price. Look ebay, some auctions from Latvia.
Edited by Andrea87 - 10/11/16 at 1:06pm
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Interesting. Whenever I see reviews of 3930Ks and similar CPUs I see benchmarks with them running at 4.6 GHz, is this not doable for daily operations then? I have a decent cooler but nothing fancy. I'm not too familiar with how to choose an overclock that's safe to run for lets say 8-12 hours a day, with tasks like web browsing and gaming all the way to video rendering. I understand that 6 cores runs hotter and takes more power to run compared to 4 core CPUs.

I've been looking at the biggest general used product site where I found this deal I talked about in my previous post. I've also been looking at a really big hardware related site that has a used product section, currently there are only 6 x79 boards on there however, and they're all way above €200.. Other than that, I've been looking at eBay but I haven't found a single interesting deal, where do you find those boards for €160 - €200 that you've mentioned? I currently am following 2 searches of "x79 motherboard" and "x79 upgrade kit" but there are only 2 relevant boards and one of them is an Intel board which is among the lowest quality boards and the other is a broken one, the rest is way beyond the €200 pricemark, even without shipping. I've been searching hardwareswap on Reddit and I've been looking in Facebook groups also, to no avail..

ECC seems to be more expensive around here, but the UD5 does not support it so it does not matter to me.
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