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[MacRumors] Tim Cook: Apple Won't Create 'Backdoor' to Help FBI Access San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone

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The original letter on Apple's website.
 
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Good for Apple
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So NSA doesn't share with FBI?
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If really so, good for Apple and their users.

But, somehow I really doubt this. Apple's PR has always been top notch and why not use the moment to gain more "support".
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Originally Posted by DiNet View Post

So NSA doesn't share with FBI?

During a trial, the FBI still needs to makeup a legal explanation for the evidence they get from the NSA, or it might be tossed out by the Judge.
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While one part of me is all rooting for Apple and their clear stance on this (I do own an iPhone and a MacBook after all), the other part of me is wondering what exactly is going on behind closed doors here. While Apple was always pro-privacy, I can't help but think that the US government will somehow somewhere find a way to pressure them in to allowing access to user data.
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While one part of me is all rooting for Apple and their clear stance on this (I do own an iPhone and a MacBook after all), the other part of me is wondering what exactly is going on behind closed doors here. While Apple was always pro-privacy, I can't help but think that the US government will somehow somewhere find a way to pressure them in to allowing access to user data.

People will start dropping Apple if they don't fight it. Maybe not your run of the mill 16 year old girl, but many professionals use iPhones and iPad and have sensitive information that needs to be secure... from everyone. If the Government gets a legal avenue to compel Apple to hack their own phones, then that is a HUGE liability. They will simply go to other platforms or solutions to secure their data, Apple loses money.
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So NSA doesn't share with FBI?

Both will never share what or how they exchange information regardless.

Since this is domestic, the FBI have to have court order in order to obtain information before it gets private data off a phone, else that evidence is obtained illegally.
The NSA collects data beyond court orders and most likely most of that data is obtained "behind the books" through illegal backdoors or other means they do not want anyone to know their existence, so it will cause an issue if the origin of the evidence is challenged (since this is domestic, I doubt anyone will be able to pull a patriotic act out of their bag). Which is also the reason why the FBI are asking apple to provide that data and they asked the courts to force apple to comply.

Also I'm sure apple knows that if they do comply and do give the FBI the means to bypass any phone encryption, then the FBI will abuse it, and apple's claims that they are really into securing the privacy of their customers is false.
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Also I'm sure apple knows that if they do comply and do give the FBI the means to bypass any phone encryption, then the FBI will abuse it, and apple's claims that they are really into securing the privacy of their customers is false.

Yes, and the larger implication is that the government now can force any company to hack their own devices... like MS updates delivering back doors so the government can spy on someone.
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While one part of me is all rooting for Apple and their clear stance on this (I do own an iPhone and a MacBook after all), the other part of me is wondering what exactly is going on behind closed doors here. While Apple was always pro-privacy, I can't help but think that the US government will somehow somewhere find a way to pressure them in to allowing access to user data.

I'm sure they already did so. One of the reasons I think the US government is accepting apple (and google's and other companies) transferring most of their funds though other countries in order to bypass paying a huge amount of money in taxes.

The "you scratch my back I scratch yours" agenda.

But when it comes to domestic courts, court order before obtaining the information, and legal way of obtaining it, is a must. So the FBI can't use information gathered through "hush hush" ways.
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