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One of the reasons I think the US government is accepting apple (and google's and other companies) transferring most of their funds though other countries in order to bypass paying a huge amount of money in taxes.

It's not up to the Government to accept it. It's perfectly legal. The US Congress is too inept to come to an agreement and change the laws.
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It's not up to the Government to accept it. It's perfectly legal. The US Congress is too inept to come to an agreement and change the laws.

No, I think it is more about holding the status quo.
Apple have very strong lobby in the government, and they will yell and threaten and scream at any even considerations of forcing them to pay their taxes.

Even if it is legal, the government can plug that hole pretty quickly. Because eventually the billions upon billions of dollars not being payed as taxes, is money the US citizens do not get a chance to enjoy.
Do you know how much those billions can help the US economy? Apple will never "get up and leave" or start to fire people or close shops. Those are hollow threats (and to be honest, just a spare change).

I'm sure the reasons the government isn't actively trying to plug those holes are in order to keep the big companies comply to certain things.
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All that said (and I do support Apple's position), if the legal owner of the device and the FBI get a court order to provide a means to gain access to the phone does that change anything? I think the key thing for me is that the the legal owner of the phone is part of the request for access. The phone was not owned by the 'bad guy'. The FBI has all his personal devices (except the hard drive they haven't found). The phone is question is a work phone legally owned by the Country of San Bernardino so the request isn't an attempt to violate anyone's personal privacy. I do not believe there is any expectation of personal privacy on a work provided device (phone, laptop, desktop etc.)
    
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post #15 of 234
good on you but sure thats what you say

but what really happens behind that fancy speech and all the closed doors only they and the government knows

and it still doesnt mean we would explicitly trust you with data, icloud leak was a good lesson to learn from

even if the government isnt , there is always someone who is
Edited by akromatic - 2/17/16 at 4:30am
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Why cant police catch a criminal like they used too for umm decades ? Its happening in Europe too, too many back office-officers and not enough blues on the street working with the community and doing proper detective work. Sure there are a lot of 'cyber' (( lol not a word anyone in tech would of coined )) crimes but just because apple / google /microsoft came up with ( 'borrowed' from GNU redface.gif ) lots of ideas and technologies shouldn't mean every department in government gets to piggyback on it and exploit ?

Tax loopholes shouldn't be used as an excuse to abuse a system in reverse either.
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Why cant police catch a criminal like they used too for umm decades ? Its happening in Europe too, too many back office-officers and not enough blues on the street working with the community and doing proper detective work. Sure there are a lot of 'cyber' (( lol not a word anyone in tech would of coined )) crimes but just because apple / google /microsoft came up with ( 'borrowed' from GNU redface.gif ) lots of ideas and technologies shouldn't mean every department in government gets to piggyback on it and exploit ?

Tax loopholes shouldn't be used as an excuse to abuse a system in reverse either.

yeh .... if only they are really about catching criminals
post #18 of 234
Come on FBI you could just hack the records to make it look like an FBI purchased iPhone and had some dumb Apple Store tech let you in?
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A good stance to take and many other telecom companies should follow suit.
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A good stance to take and many other telecom companies should follow suit.

no doubt its a good public stance to take but at the same time it raises flags if they are actually obfuscating the behind scenes picture

ether way kudos and hope more follow suit and actually keep their word
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