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post #21 of 234
So if you use an iPhone the chances of you being a terrorist just increased biggrin.gif.
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post #22 of 234
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No, I think it is more about holding the status quo.
Apple have very strong lobby in the government, and they will yell and threaten and scream at any even considerations of forcing them to pay their taxes.

Even if it is legal, the government can plug that hole pretty quickly. Because eventually the billions upon billions of dollars not being payed as taxes, is money the US citizens do not get a chance to enjoy.
Do you know how much those billions can help the US economy? Apple will never "get up and leave" or start to fire people or close shops. Those are hollow threats (and to be honest, just a spare change).

I'm sure the reasons the government isn't actively trying to plug those holes are in order to keep the big companies comply to certain things.

Apple isn't a US company, a lot of company such as those, are not national company anymore, they are multi-national company with various offices and HQ all over the world, trying to treat them as such, is not going to work, and if the US can mandate that Apple put in a backdoor, what's stopping CHina, Russia and other countries that Apple have office in, what if a country doesn't agree that it shouldn't have back door, and order Apple to remove it?
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Originally Posted by xTesla1856 View Post

While one part of me is all rooting for Apple and their clear stance on this (I do own an iPhone and a MacBook after all), the other part of me is wondering what exactly is going on behind closed doors here. While Apple was always pro-privacy, I can't help but think that the US government will somehow somewhere find a way to pressure them in to allowing access to user data.

The law, at least in the U.S., says a suspect does not have to reveal passwords. So the government is going after the software/hardware makers instead to put backdoors into their software. This is why many people also believe TrueCrypt is not being developed any more.
Edited by aweir - 2/17/16 at 9:45am
post #24 of 234
Apple is standing up to the FBI on privacy and all you can do is nitpick about a small irrelevant opinion. He's the CEO of the company, of course there's going to be some PR.

What's important is that they're not backing down on privacy.
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Not surprised, as soon as I read that the Government ordered it, I knew Apple and Tim would give them the bird. It goes WAY beyond this one case, it is that simple. Also, Apple has refused in the past as well - if I remember correctly.

This is just another "Think of the children" move by the Government in order to try and compromise privacy at a much greater level.
    
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Good job, Apple! thumb.gif I hope other companies follow suit.
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Good on apple, everyone else should do the same.
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Come on FBI you could just hack the records to make it look like an FBI purchased iPhone and had some dumb Apple Store tech let you in?
It doesn't work like that...
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Not surprised, as soon as I read that the Government ordered it, I knew Apple and Tim would give them the bird. It goes WAY beyond this one case, it is that simple. Also, Apple has refused in the past as well - if I remember correctly.

This is just another "Think of the children" move by the Government in order to try and compromise privacy at a much greater level.

Eh, goes a little beyond that.

Considering they were terrorists, it's conceivable that their contacts are on the phone actually, this goes a little past conceivable since, they used their phones up until and during the incident.

While I absolutely think Apple is in the right - Why can't they just have the FBI send them the phone, unlock it in a super secret isolated room, with 1 person access and then ship it back, unlocked...Problem solved?

They still uphold your rights and help the FBI track down more terrorists conceivably within our borders.

What's more important? The security of a terrorist's phone?

I have an Iphone, also have a Black Phone - Believe me, I'm 100% behind not giving the FBI the capability of unlocking a phone - Especially considering their usual range of scrutiny/chain of evidence but, in this case, you have someone we know to be a terrorist, contacting other terrorists - That's a little different from breaking down your alleged local dealer's Iphone. Just sayin.
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Eh, goes a little beyond that.

Considering they were terrorists, it's conceivable that their contacts are on the phone actually, this goes a little past conceivable since, they used their phones up until and during the incident.

While I absolutely think Apple is in the right - Why can't they just have the FBI send them the phone, unlock it in a super secret isolated room, with 1 person access and then ship it back, unlocked...Problem solved?

They still uphold your rights and help the FBI track down more terrorists conceivably within our borders.

What's more important? The security of a terrorist's phone?

I have an Iphone, also have a Black Phone - Believe me, I'm 100% behind not giving the FBI the capability of unlocking a phone - Especially considering their usual range of scrutiny/chain of evidence but, in this case, you have someone we know to be a terrorist, contacting other terrorists - That's a little different from breaking down your alleged local dealer's Iphone. Just sayin.

I would wager that the government would then point to this one case as a reason to compel Apple to do the same in another case. As typical of governments, there exists the expansion of power.

If Apple could be compelled in this case, even with no government agency knowing how it was done or possessing the tools, in principle it would be no different then the FBI possessing the tools or having a backdoor.

I can look at the TOS, I'm fairly certain my foot is past the line, I just havent put it down yet.buttkick.gif
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