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Yes of course i will do this lol, but as said earlier why does the consumer need to take that extra step especially when a laptop SSD should be even cheaper than the already cheap consumer SSD's (120 gig for 40 bucks!)

People will see 1TB HDD or 200GB SSD and take the HDD, cause they don't know any better.
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People will see 1TB HDD or 200GB SSD and take the HDD, cause they don't know any better.

Ya this is probably true as well, but a lot of people dont even know how much storage they actually need lol. My mother for example has 420 gigs available of a usable 467 gigs lol. I think most of that is i installed WoW on it a long time ago and just never deleted it lol.
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http://rjtech.com/shop/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30417

doesn't come with any OS or harddrive or ram
i5 / HD 530 / 6MB / 4C/4T / 1920x1080
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I can find a machine like that fully assembled for around that price, but i think spending 600 bucks for someone on a machine they check facebook and email is ridic lol. But i did decide to go for 1080p (and of course an SSD) for finer text. The asus i linked a page back is the best deal ive found and ill add a 120gig SSD for 40 bucks.
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Im on an m4600 that originally came with a i7 2860qm and 540m level graphics (more so to have 3 screens) That came with a 1TB HDD for 300, then just grabbed a cheap mSATA 128GB SSD for the OS for like 40 off ebay. FHD as well. You can get cheaper by looking at dual cores and lower amounts of RAM (4GB), just depends on what your needs are...

Unless of course there is need for the warranty then buying new will be needed. Just thought I would throw in that info in context to keeping the price low.
    
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Dell outlet with Coupon.
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Dell outlet with Coupon.

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Just ordered:

http://www.amazon.com/F555LA-AB31-15-6-inch-Full-HD-Laptop-Windows/dp/B011KFQASE/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1456025261&sr=1-4&keywords=laptop

Came to 396 after tax, grrr why you gotta do that to me amazon! (minnesota just recently has been charged with sales tax). Either way, its the best i could find with a 1080 screen for under 400 bucks. Gonna see how fast boot up is before i order the SSD, but i got a feeling ill be getting one soon. I looked on ebay (no tax) but none of the sellers seemed legit, and i woulda saved 30 bucks at most, decided that 30 bucks is worth it just for amazons return policy if its awful.
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Depends which laptop you look at, some of them get you a 256-> 512gb + 8gb-> 16gb for only $200 which is actually fairly reasonable for not having to do any of the work yourself or replacing the hard drive. And again, majority of laptops sold are for general mass, who have no business going into a bios and messing something up. It is things like those restrictions that separate a work station and "business class" PCs from a general notebook sold to the general mass.

So far I haven't run into a problem over last 3 laptops I've owned where i've needed to go into bios and mess with stuff nor have I ever had a problem upgrading a hard drive in a laptop where I would need to send it off to the manufacturer..
Yeah it is pretty crazy that some retailers want 800-1000+ for the U-Series (Dual core + HT) laptop processors.

The first example you gave is pretty decent value. What manufacturer is that? I bought my last laptop about a year ago. Not sure if things have changed but not many companies were offering that kind of value. The SSD size did seem to be the biggest factor in price. As well as whether the computer was 1080p or 720p.

It's true, the computer market, especially the mobile market, is geared towards the masses. However, this is why they are overcharging on storage. They know most people are not capable of swapping a hard drive. Overcharging just because you can.....

I've run into a few issues with machines with drives that were whitelisted into the BIOS. Meaning if you put in any other drive than the one from the manufacturer, the bios would reject it.

I've also seen multiple machines with soldered memory. I could be wrong but it seems the only reason to do this is to control the consumer.... Is there any other reason why one would solder memory? What happens if your memory goes bad. The whole computer would be dead, would it not?

What about putting the drive underneath the motherboard... That's a huge hassle.

I think the biggest reason they design systems like this is planned obsolescence. If your memory is soldered and the drive inaccessible, you will buy a new machine when you need something better. It prevents computer shops and third parties from upgrading. Think about how much unnecessary waste that creates.....
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The first example you gave is pretty decent value. What manufacturer is that? I bought my last laptop about a year ago. Not sure if things have changed but not many companies were offering that kind of value. The SSD size did seem to be the biggest factor in price. As well as whether the computer was 1080p or 720p.
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