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post #181 of 234
A verry good price that 70 euro there, way cheaper than i Denamark i can tell you :-)
Dont expect to break any reccords with that setup but for everyday use and the price its a fine solution :-)
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post #182 of 234
yes well in Serbia prices are either insanely high or very cheap. Second hand market are in class of its own!
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You are dead wrong on this. I decided to wait until now to call you on it.


and may God have mercy on your soul.

Your post actually made me switch to an Intel system because of how truly ignorant you chose to be about other options on the market just because you saved money on an AMD chip at one time. People with your line of rhetoric are not helpful at all in the grand scheme of things on this site. All you do is steer well meaning noobs in the wrong direction on which platform they should chose just because you are at a dead end on your platform and have to justify your purchases in order to live with yourself.
you are doing nothing but spreading misinformation because of your own misaligned ego.


Dude, your post is really weird. Do you always take things so personally? You waited two months to spew this crazy drivel?
post #184 of 234
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You are dead wrong on this. I decided to wait until now to call you on it.

845 I can't even sell for 40 bucks and its only been 2 months.

It has no integrated graphics and buying something that is even close to the 7800 series graphic card wise is at least 50 bucks. Its gimped in every way possible yet still you just want to argue for the sake of argument. A Skylake Pentium has at least graphics and was the same price. The 845 has none and you need a video card to even use it.

There is absolutely no savings or fair about how this chip was priced. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

Your post actually made me switch to an Intel system because of how truly ignorant you chose to be about other options on the market just because you saved money on an AMD chip at one time. People with your line of rhetoric are not helpful at all in the grand scheme of things on this site. All you do is steer well meaning noobs in the wrong direction on which platform they should chose just because you are at a dead end on your platform and have to justify your purchases in order to live with yourself.

Lets basically break this down shall we.
The 860K could be had for cheaper at many points before the 845 came out and the 845 itself was suppose to be a final refresh of the Athlon APU line before Zen. No one was expecting some magical chip yet it was suppose to show improvements that warranted an upgrade from the existing generation Athlon. In this case it did not yet you still want to spread some sort of SJW type spiel about it somehow being good value. How exactly is it good value when older APU's/CPU outperform it as well as the 1151 platform being in a much better position upgrade wise while having options that are cost effective from CPU to motherboard to RAM across the board. Its astonishing that you really want to defend a chip that yourself have probably never owned. I have had it for 2 months and its weaker in every way possible in comparison to just the CPU side of the 7800.

the 860k...
unlocked multi
higher bandwidth PCIE lanes
more level 2 cache


The 845 shouldn't have been branded as an Athlon, it should have been branded as a Sempron. bottom line. It is a 50 dollar chip and always should have been considering the downgrades in comparison to the 860k.

print that last part there and I want you to post it above your computer screen so next time you decide to argue for the sake of argument that you are doing nothing but spreading misinformation because of your own misaligned ego.

You bought a cheap cpu and have been crying about it for months. Who twisted your arm to buy it? Why didn't you research it first? Now you blame people on this forum? Nobody likes whiners or crybabies. Start acting like a man instead of a three year old.
post #185 of 234
OK, a small update: rig is working fine but mobo is little weird. Motherboard is constantly overwolting CPU for some reason. I was able to raise base clock to 104 any higher and mobo is pouring a 1.480v!!! Ram is working beautifully at 1920mhz and nb at 1367mhz! I decided to keep base clock to 103,until I understand what causes this strange behavior! Pic of benchmarks tomorrow!
post #186 of 234
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845 I can't even sell for 40 bucks and its only been 2 months.

I would like to iterate once more, in case you missed it last time, I WILL buy the CPU from you for $40. If you have a decent motherboard to go with it, I'd be interested in that as well.
post #187 of 234
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Dude, you answered your own question. It is a $70 cpu. What did you expect from it? As far as a lot of effort. It is a hobby for people.
It is still pretty bad if you compare it to previous budget cpus like the good old AMD duron which had a similar pricetag.
Even though it was a budget CPU it still could keep up with the bigger brothers in many tasks, while this one based on the benchmarks here does not even reach phenom 2 levels of performance, even though that CPU is now getting close to a decade old.

Edit: and on top of that the Duron actually was a great overclocker for the time as well, while this one barely overclocks at all.
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It is still pretty bad if you compare it to previous budget cpus like the good old AMD duron which had a similar pricetag.
Even though it was a budget CPU it still could keep up with the bigger brothers in many tasks, while this one based on the benchmarks here does not even reach phenom 2 levels of performance, even though that CPU is now getting close to a decade old.

Edit: and on top of that the Duron actually was a great overclocker for the time as well, while this one barely overclocks at all.

Maybe because the chip isn't unlocked? thumb.gif
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post #189 of 234
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Maybe because the chip isn't unlocked? thumb.gif
And that is kind of my point? tongue.gif
Even at that price point it is pretty damn poor if you compare it to budget cpu's from the past.

Personally I don't even understand why people even build budget rigs like this when you could just get a half a decade or older chip for nearly nothing that performs alot better like intel sandybridge.
It made much more sense back during duron days, as it still performed better than previous generation high end athlons.
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And that is kind of my point? tongue.gif
Even at that price point it is pretty damn poor if you compare it to budget cpu's from the past.

Personally I don't even understand why people even build budget rigs like this when you could just get a half a decade or older chip for nearly nothing that performs alot better like intel sandybridge.
It made much more sense back during duron days, as it still performed better than previous generation high end athlons.

It's not just a matter of raw performance, but of the entire platform. You're also not taking clockspeeds into account. The x4 845 is faster than any Phenom II X4 ever produced, on average. It supports modern memory and memory speeds, and the platform is almost completely up to date.

The x4 845, at the same clock speeds, has a slight advantage over the Phenom II in single threaded tasks, but loses in some heavily threaded tasks. Then consider that it pretty much always sustains its 3.8GHz turbo clock during those loads and you have a clear winner (albeit not by a very large margin). It is also a more power efficient CPU.

As always, though, you have to consider everything involved. Warranties, driver support, part interchangeability, and so on play major roles for many people.
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