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It's not just a matter of raw performance, but of the entire platform. You're also not taking clockspeeds into account. The x4 845 is faster than any Phenom II X4 ever produced, on average. It supports modern memory and memory speeds, and the platform is almost completely up to date.

The x4 845, at the same clock speeds, has a slight advantage over the Phenom II in single threaded tasks, but loses in some heavily threaded tasks. Then consider that it pretty much always sustains its 3.8GHz turbo clock during those loads and you have a clear winner (albeit not by a very large margin). It is also a more power efficient CPU.

As always, though, you have to consider everything involved. Warranties, driver support, part interchangeability, and so on play major roles for many people.
You definitely have a point when it comes to warranties and power usage.
But if power usage is not your first priority and you don't mind taking a bit more risk, then I think something like a used 2500k would give much more bang for the buck.
post #192 of 234
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You definitely have a point when it comes to warranties and power usage.
But if power usage is not your first priority and you don't mind taking a bit more risk, then I think something like a used 2500k would give much more bang for the buck.

Sure, if you're building a ground-up system, can tolerate the risk, and can find all the components you need (quality 1155 boards are becoming increasingly scarce - and those you can find have seen no drop in price).

The x4 845, really, is meant to be a drop-in upgrade for existing systems. If you have a board that can use it and you have something like an A8-7600 and you have a dedicated GPU, the x4 845 is a great fit for a rather decent upgrade.

If you are building new and cheap, a Pentium based system makes much more sense than anything AMD has to offer unless you can make better use of more cores than you can of high IPC.
post #193 of 234
I have seen quite a few cheap mobo+2500k bundles on ebay that would in total end up being cheaper than building a brand new budget rig from scratch.
As long as you stay away from full pre built systems you can get them for very cheap.
post #194 of 234
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I think he know more than everyone at this forum smile.gif Stilt working close to AMD and tested many chips before launch date. Programmed few great softwares for AMD chips etc. He know what he talking about smile.gif

Good Superpi 32M doenst mean the same performance in others tests smile.gif

It does mean better single-core, though. drunken.gif
 
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post #195 of 234



Well bad luck continues my backup gpu died on me,but rig is running fine and extremely nois
post #196 of 234
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I have seen quite a few cheap mobo+2500k bundles on ebay that would in total end up being cheaper than building a brand new budget rig from scratch.
As long as you stay away from full pre built systems you can get them for very cheap.


Show us those cheap rigs. I look on eBay every evening and all I see are crazy prices for even X58 boards and cpu's.
post #197 of 234
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It is still pretty bad if you compare it to previous budget cpus like the good old AMD duron which had a similar pricetag.
Even though it was a budget CPU it still could keep up with the bigger brothers in many tasks, while this one based on the benchmarks here does not even reach phenom 2 levels of performance, even though that CPU is now getting close to a decade old.

Edit: and on top of that the Duron actually was a great overclocker for the time as well, while this one barely overclocks at all.


You need to know the history of the poster. He didn't do any research. None. He didn't even know the cpu had a locked multiplier. He is complaining about the L2 cache size. Now he is complaining it doesn't have an igpu. None of these things were a secret! Yet he still bought it. He is insulting people who disagree with his opinion. He is actually blaming other posters that they somehow persuaded him to buy the cpu. It is a 65 watt cpu of course there is a trade off with that. It performs very well consider that compared to its 95 watt big brothers.
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post #198 of 234
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Show us those cheap rigs. I look on eBay every evening and all I see are crazy prices for even X58 boards and cpu's.
I have seen some mobo+cpu combos being sold for around 100 euros on several occasions, which to me seems to be a pretty decent deal. The motherboards are probably not the best feature and overclock wise, but if you are on a budget that is a pretty nice deal imo.
post #199 of 234
How well would a 8C/8T Excavator do had they made one?
post #200 of 234
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Originally Posted by Kana Chan View Post

How well would a 8C/8T Excavator do had they made one?

15% on IPC (~FPU) and ~30% on MT.

So 3.5GHz excavator should beat 4.5GHz vishera
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