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Agreed. Lynnfield is still a pretty capable CPU in its own right. When I built my first rig back in 2011 I even considered 1156 for my CPU mostly because of the SB mobo snafu that was going on at the time (couldn't get 1155 mobos) but ended up going ahead with a 2600k and a recalled board I found on the shelf at CompUSA until I could get my real mobo, the P67 Sabertooth, that I still have to this day.
post #252 of 402
Sandy Bridge was really a great arch.
Like I always do, I offered my old rig to my best friend but before giving it to him I checked the platform with several load tests in order to tweak 4 BIOS profiles.
The default mode I choose is 4.5GHz, with a ridiculous offset of +0.005 and a LLC on medium settings. A +30% overclock with just ~1.26v during high loads.
During summer 2013, I tested underclocking/under voltage with this 2600K and I was able to run 4GHz fanless with a Prolimatech Megahalem (1.157v during high loads) :



A terrific processor, loved it.
post #253 of 402
i still use 1st gen i7-980x, which is even older than this 2nd gen 2500k. i still don't find problems running games
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i still use 1st gen i7-980x, which is even older than this 2nd gen 2500k. i still don't find problems running games
Nehalem was definitely a beast, the 980x being the absolute beast no doubt. But I think what is most impressive about the 2500k is that it was/is a mid-range cpu that launched for around 200$ and is still a very capable processor even to this day. I don't want to sound presumptuous but we may never see a CPU like it again. I actually had mine from the first week it was launched running at around 4.8-5ghz it's entire lifetime, went through at least 3 gpu swaps and it's still soldiering on as my friends CPU.
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Nehalem was definitely a beast, the 980x being the absolute beast no doubt. But I think what is most impressive about the 2500k is that it was/is a mid-range cpu that launched for around 200$ and is still a very capable processor even to this day. I don't want to sound presumptuous but we may never see a CPU like it again. I actually had mine from the first week it was launched running at around 4.8-5ghz it's entire lifetime, went through at least 3 gpu swaps and it's still soldiering on as my friends CPU.

Your screenname needs a GPU upgrade as well I see biggrin.gif
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But I think what is most impressive about the 2500k is that it was/is a mid-range cpu that launched for around 200$ and is still a very capable processor even to this day.
I really hate this line of thinking. It's not impressive. The only thing impressive about the 2500k is that Intel managed to milk a bunch of idiots for 5-6% performance on 4 generations of successors. They've stalled progress so blatantly in the consumer market that 10 years after quad cores were introduced they still haven't gone up from that count. This despite the fact that we've had 4 node shrinks since Kentsfield.

It's not impressive for developers to not implement decent multithreading 15 years after x64 is released.
It's not impressive that consumers have received nominal benefits from hundreds of billions in sales.
People want to praise Intel for scraps? you're part of the problem.
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It's not impressive for developers to not implement decent multithreading 15 years after x64 is released.

I agree that Intel hasn't pushed the performance boundaries very hard of late (low power consumption is in vogue), but this statement is odd. What is "decent" multithreading, and what do multithreading and x64 have to do with each other?
    
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post #258 of 402
I'm really hoping the multithread debate isn't as bad as I think. Yes I've had a 4 core 2500k since I can remember but I'm now looking at getting a skylake laptop with either the i5-6300hq or i7-6700HQ...which the performance gap between the two is quite decent...not only in single core performance because of core clock but the multithread performance beats my overclocked 2500k... I know some more modern games have done a good job of multithreading and spreading out to at least 8 threads which would be good for me but overall I hope most programs do a good job of utilizing 8 threads...
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I really hate this line of thinking. It's not impressive. The only thing impressive about the 2500k is that Intel managed to milk a bunch of idiots for 5-6% performance on 4 generations of successors. They've stalled progress so blatantly in the consumer market that 10 years after quad cores were introduced they still haven't gone up from that count. This despite the fact that we've had 4 node shrinks since Kentsfield.

It's not impressive for developers to not implement decent multithreading 15 years after x64 is released.
It's not impressive that consumers have received nominal benefits from hundreds of billions in sales.
People want to praise Intel for scraps? you're part of the problem.

lolwut? People are not the problem here; they're behaving exactly as you'd expect -- they buy and praise the best product available.

The problem is that Intel has no competition, and is behaving exactly as a company with no competition behaves - they don't bother with progress (in the areas where nobody can compete with them) and just milk their consumer base. If you want to point the finger somewhere, the finger deserves to be firmly pointed at AMD and their faildozer architecture. The only way out of this mess is if Zen is actually good, not if people stop "praising Intel for scraps".

People stop praising Intel for scraps --> Intel doesn't care, keeps going as normal and making their $$$
AMD develops a competitive CPU for the first time in nearly a decade --> Intel will respond by improving their product and/or dropping sales
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What is "decent" multithreading, and what do multithreading and x64 have to do with each other?
Decent multithreading refers to the fact that many games still typically utilize a single core. So 1 core will get 90% utilization while the rest perform non sequitur tasks. x64 is used as a timeframe, the beginning of multicore consumer systems. In other words how long developers have failed to keep up with progress.
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lolwut? People are not the problem here; they're behaving exactly as you'd expect -- they buy and praise the best product available.
People can behave exactly as expected and still be part of the problem. They aren't mutually exclusive positions.
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