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Decent multithreading refers to the fact that many games still typically utilize a single core. So 1 core will get 90% utilization while the rest perform non sequitur tasks. x64 is used as a timeframe, the beginning of multicore consumer systems. In other words how long developers have failed to keep up with progress.
People can behave exactly as expected and still be part of the problem. They aren't mutually exclusive positions.

I've checked out task manager on almost every game i've played over the past few years and not a single one of them loads one core while the others have minimal activity. You probably have CPU Core Parking still enabled on 3 of your cores. After i upgraded to windows 10, went to run Ark: Survival Evolved and the game ran like hell. Turns out the upgrade re-enabled core parking and using the utility found at the following link, the problem was solved.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=392839
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Due to restrictions with windows, programs keeping track of core usage is pretty inaccurate.

Also, of course games use more than one core, the issue is so many of them still have a disproportionate load on a core or two. Multithreading on pc is harder than multithreading on console, so years ago lots of games didn't bother a whole lot. now...they have to.
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Decent multithreading refers to the fact that many games still typically utilize a single core. So 1 core will get 90% utilization while the rest perform non sequitur tasks.

Blame the OS thread scheduler. It's trying not to waste time and energy pointlessly switching the thread between cores. More even load means more cores in higher power states.

I don't know why people want high CPU utilisation all the time. If there is not enough work for a thread to do then it isn't going to use much CPU time.
    
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Meanwhile in reality ... it really depends on what one is doing. If the main purpose of the rig is running benchmarks then yes definitely, although to be accurate - in that case the logical upgrade path would be to LGA2011 platform.

For gaming ... to be frank I do not think so. If one is running on a 5 year old platfrom then the upgrade money would be better spent on a stronger GFX card for gaming than on the CPU upgrade. And only when everything else has been modernized and there is still pile of money burning a hole in ones pocket only then it would be sensible to upgrade a 2500k in a gaming rig. Because in my experience while the difference can be there in the benchmarks in actual gameplay one can not tell the difference as long as the CPU is "strong enough" and i5 2500K still is. I went a little while ago from AMD 1055T @ 3.8 GHz to i7-3820 @ 4.3 GHz and that is somewhat larger jump in benchmark scores than going from 2500k to 6700k and I did not feel any difference in actual gaming or desktop experience. The display was still running at 60 fps and perhaps my reaction times are not good enough to tell the difference between ~65 fps and ~95 fps on a 60 Hz display.
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Meanwhile in reality ... it really depends on what one is doing. If the main purpose of the rig is running benchmarks then yes definitely, although to be accurate - in that case the logical upgrade path would be to LGA2011 platform.

For gaming ... to be frank I do not think so. If one is running on a 5 year old platfrom then the upgrade money would be better spent on a stronger GFX card for gaming than on the CPU upgrade. And only when everything else has been modernized and there is still pile of money burning a hole in ones pocket only then it would be sensible to upgrade a 2500k in a gaming rig. Because in my experience while the difference can be there in the benchmarks in actual gameplay one can not tell the difference as long as the CPU is "strong enough" and i5 2500K still is. I went a little while ago from AMD 1055T @ 3.8 GHz to i7-3820 @ 4.3 GHz and that is somewhat larger jump in benchmark scores than going from 2500k to 6700k and I did not feel any difference in actual gaming or desktop experience. The display was still running at 60 fps and perhaps my reaction times are not good enough to tell the difference between ~65 fps and ~95 fps on a 60 Hz display.

This!! Lol

195fps on a 1080p 60hz monitor.

If you are the few that can afford 3 x 4k 32 inch monitors then yeah newst cpu and quad gpus then, though the scaling sucks
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post #266 of 402
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Meanwhile in reality ... it really depends on what one is doing. If the main purpose of the rig is running benchmarks then yes definitely, although to be accurate - in that case the logical upgrade path would be to LGA2011 platform.

For gaming ... to be frank I do not think so. If one is running on a 5 year old platfrom then the upgrade money would be better spent on a stronger GFX card for gaming than on the CPU upgrade. And only when everything else has been modernized and there is still pile of money burning a hole in ones pocket only then it would be sensible to upgrade a 2500k in a gaming rig. Because in my experience while the difference can be there in the benchmarks in actual gameplay one can not tell the difference as long as the CPU is "strong enough" and i5 2500K still is. I went a little while ago from AMD 1055T @ 3.8 GHz to i7-3820 @ 4.3 GHz and that is somewhat larger jump in benchmark scores than going from 2500k to 6700k and I did not feel any difference in actual gaming or desktop experience. The display was still running at 60 fps and perhaps my reaction times are not good enough to tell the difference between ~65 fps and ~95 fps on a 60 Hz display.

I agree with this. Although its been burning a hole in my pocket, my sig rig has been just fine and hasnt truly needed an upgrade. I have kind of been wanting to go to one single modern card vs SLI though. I went SLI with 580s when you kind of needed two cards to get the absolute best but now I feel these new cards do great with just one. Im assuming an i7 2600k would be practically the same story as that article is about?
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Still rocking 2500K with 1440 x 900 monitor (nope, I won't go higher res unless there's legit reason for my usage to do so). Guess I won't upgrading in a loooong arse time biggrin.gif

Not OC yet, maybe I'll buy Cryorig H7 (the so-called 212 killer). 2133 mHz RAM is so cheap indeed, and in near future I should have either 950 or 960 biggrin.gif
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Still rocking 2500K with 1440 x 900 monitor (nope, I won't go higher res unless there's legit reason for my usage to do so). Guess I won't upgrading in a loooong arse time biggrin.gif

Not OC yet, maybe I'll buy Cryorig H7 (the so-called 212 killer). 2133 mHz RAM is so cheap indeed, and in near future I should have either 950 or 960 biggrin.gif

Desktop space alone is enough reason to upgrade to a higher res monitor. 27" 1440p monitors are a pretty good sweet spot between desktop space, clarity, and general usage. Ain't no way nobody's saying they can't use the extra desktop space 1440p provides. 4k is another beast and gets to the point that you're dealing with a little too much desktop space, without going way over 4k.

Gaming wise you can pull 1440p on a 950 or 960 with lots of compromises and lower fps. Though I'd look into an AMD option in that case. Something with 4gb Vram.

Too bad you don't live around me. I've got 3 1080p monitors in my closet taking up a lot of space. I could live with having one less. biggrin.gif
     
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Still rocking 2500K with 1440 x 900 monitor (nope, I won't go higher res unless there's legit reason for my usage to do so). Guess I won't upgrading in a loooong arse time biggrin.gif

Not OC yet, maybe I'll buy Cryorig H7 (the so-called 212 killer). 2133 mHz RAM is so cheap indeed, and in near future I should have either 950 or 960 biggrin.gif

Try 34 inch 3440x1440 21:9 monitor and you will think why did i ever use that old crap rez biggrin.gif
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Too bad you don't live around me. I've got 3 1080p monitors in my closet taking up a lot of space. I could live with having one less. biggrin.gif

I'll pay for the shipping to send one my way, I'd like to have a 2nd screen again lachen.gif

I'm only kidding, shipping it from the US would cost me as much as a new one :')
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