Originally Posted by Punisher64
This stuff has to stop.
WARNING: RANT INCOMING
If you think that Windows 10 was the first to 'phone home' and to collect data, you must be living under a rock. Apple and Google track exactly where you take pictures as well as can tell you where you've been (all that data is logged, especially the no-no trips you don't want your gf/wife to find out about). My phone, without me telling it a single thing mind you, can tell me where I work, where my house is, and normally what days I do what. Here comes the second part of the rant....with all the cyber hacking going on, Microsoft is in a way (NOTE: I do not agree totally with the phone home system) protecting us from security flaws. Also, here's the biggest part: don't do anything bad...and well....nothing to worry about! Good grief people, quit complaining about the stupid stuff that's meant to help us just because you're scared big brother is going to find that secret folder of pr0n that you've been hiding.
First off, I never said Microsoft was the sole problem, nor did I forget to go out of my way
mean they should stop trying to break this story.
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The conversation isn't even about Windows 10; people are just focusing on Windows 10 because it's the most likely product to trailblaze transgressions of our government. The real intention of all these reports is to expose the intentions of the government, not Microsoft.
Secondly, it's difficult for Microsoft or any other corporation to protect you from security flaws when the government is pressuring them to create security flaws. Encryption, also, is under fire from the government and will likely be illegal within a decade or so. They move slowly, and if you were alive around the time that they were warming us up to law involving copyright, speech, privacy, and software licenses.. you'd understand how this works.
Thirdly and lastly, the concern about breach of privacy doesn't come from people who are afraid of being caught doing something wrong. Privacy law is not to protect criminals. It's to protect innocent people from criminal governments. We understood that all-access government was dangerous during the formation of the country before the information age
; I find it baffling to see people so confused about this concept all of a sudden.
You said it yourself. GPS alone makes it easy to find out where you work, who you're spending time with, what church you go to, what protests you attend. Very accurate algorithms already exist to scavenge web history for targeted advertising to define your next purchase. How hard is it to use that to find potential political adversaries or proliferators of unfavorable speech? No one is saying they're scared of privacy infringement because they're doing something wrong. Privacy infringement, especially on this technological scale, is scary all on it's own.
You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that; it was once understood as a fundamental individual right necessary to maintain a free society and that's why it was
a cornerstone of our society.
Originally Posted by Punisher64
You did give consent, when you accepted the EULA. Check.Mate.
You did not need
to have knowledge, let alone give consent, when CISA S. 2588 was passed for you, your children, and your children's children. And again, this is a failed argument. A EULA is contract law and can not void your inalienable human right to privacy from the government. You offer that a person retains the right to exclude themselves from modern day life as a way to escape government surveillance; it's hard for me to address all the things that are wrong with that suggestion, but I think even the most steadfast toady needs not have it explained to them. If you're not interested enough to think out your opinion, you shouldn't give one.
And I'll add: when the majority of the population is too ignorant to see the problem with the destruction of privacy from government, the individual who works hard to retain his right to privacy will still suffer the damage. Want for privacy is quickly becoming perceived as backward, suspicious, isolationism. The inalienable right for privacy outlined in our constitution is losing it's value without
official denouncement. Suggesting that a person should not participate in modern life to solve their thirst for a right to privacy is just.. insane.Edited by Mookster - 2/23/16 at 7:42pm