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Well, it supports SSI-CEB, but that's not the same thing as E-ATX. CEB is bigger than ATX, but smaller than E-ATX.
I don't know if you really want this case or if I'm just being annoying, but there's only a 63mm difference between the two, which, judging by pictures, seems like enough clearance.

Also, most boards advertised as e-atx are actually closer to ssi-ceb size, FWIW. AFAIK only server boards are full e-atx these days. These guys call it "Type E-ATX" (???).

Rampage 5 example - https://rog.asus.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-74777.html

Also, a 12.3" GPU limitation means 312.42mm, just shy of full E-ATX, but definitely in the realm of most "E-ATX" enthusiast boards.

Edit:
Rampage 5 Extreme - 272mm
X99 G1 - 259mm
X99E-WS: Admits it's SSI-CEB
AsRock doesn't publish their dimensions apparently, but looking like most enthusiast boards will fit thumb.gif
Edited by claes - 2/22/16 at 5:49pm
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Ah, you meant SSI-EEB. E-ATX is pretty synonymous with ~10.5" with marketing nowadays. But yeah, you're definitely not fitting 13" server boards in this unless you have a master plan to re-route the motherboard cables and use 3x 120mm fans. The offset will give you a bit more space for longer boards. Or, you could mount the fans outside the case.

Edit: even then, it might not work. It would be an extremely tight fit.
Edited by airisom2 - 2/22/16 at 5:55pm
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I really like this case, but the main drawbacks for me are you can't mount an E-ATX mobo in it and it's a steel unibody with an aluminum front panel. It's not an all-aluminum case like Silverstone's Temjin series is known for. Still a good price for what you're getting, though.

imo those are actually design choices that i agree with Silverstone. VERY few TRUE EATX boards exist outside of server boards. as a consumer oriented chassis, it's silly to make room for a TRUE EATX spec when most people in their target niche simply use Asus ROG boards in the 1st place. the additional size required to conform to the EATX spec is not what this chassis is targeting. it's a compact ATX chassis with excellent air cooling capabilities. increase in size degrades the air cooling performance since it adds the travel distance between intake and exhaust. it also unnecessarily adds to the internal volume which decreases the kinetic energy of the airflow and it's ability to push heat out of the case.

as far as aluminum. it's a durability issue. steel is MUCH harder / durable then aluminum and there are ALOT of screws involved in a mobo tray. their target market is the enthusiast market which means people are going to be going in and out of their systems often which means alot of unscrewing/screwing on the mobo tray / chassis. with the amount of expected "wear and tear" on the screw holes, steel is definitely preferable to aluminum IMO. Personally i would have preferred aluminum side panels since it's a visible exterior component, however aluminum panels are also notoriously easy to scratch up, often produce harmonic hum due to the lowered mass, and would require painting to get the correct color match with the rest of the system anyway... so in the long run, steel panels "may" fair better. besides a large portion of the target niche for this case would opt for a windowed side panel so that's another reason i suppose.

I do not own the FT05. however I am using the chassis that inspired the FT05 (i'm using FT02) and these opinions formed from my long term usage of the FT02. the use of aluminum in the sub frame would not benefit the chassis much since it's mostly not visible from the outside in the 1st place. the weight saving would be negligible after proper paint is applied anyway IMO. so to sum it up. IMO they steered away from aluminum due to durability and acoustics characteristics of the material itself. and it just happens that I agree with those design choices. besides, do you really want to pay another $50 - $80 for the aluminum sub-frame?
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I've used an RV03 in my last build and thermals were excellent. It's the same basic design, but I assume this is significantly nicer. Although Silverstone's build material is undeniably quality, they have a lot of questionable/quirky design choices that border experimental as apposed to staple. Also, acoustics on my RV03 weren't the best as it was primarily an airflow focused build which this case also seems to center around. I do notice some sound dampening and improvements in the design over the RV03 (mainly the stupid hard drive mounting options) but be aware these cases don't support many AIO's or water cooling which most people tend to use on higher end builds. The main thing I miss from my RV03 is the motherboard orientation due to the ease of access of the rear I/O. Basically, you CAN do better for the money unless this fits your niche, or if you want a truly different and unique build and experience.
     
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would an X7DBE+ fit?

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE_.cfm

I don't believe so. The biggest spec that the FT05 takes is SSI-CEB, which wikipedia says is 12 x 10.5 in and that board is 13.66 x 13. frown.gif It's a surprisingly compact case
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...but be aware these cases don't support many AIO's or water cooling which most people tend to use on higher end builds.
The FT02 shipped with a 240mm radiator mount, as well as the 120mm exhaust (didn't your RV03 have those two 120mm mounts at the HDD cage, too?).

I'm not sure if the FT05 ships with such a mount, but the bottom supports 120x3 if a user wanted to move from 180mm.

Also, there are some pretty legendary watercooling builds in these cases - 180mm offers a lot of radiator area (a 2x180x35 radiator offers the same area as a 4.5x120x35 radiator) and the performance/noise of 180mm fans is hard to beat.
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would an X7DBE+ fit?

http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE_.cfm
Nope, at least not without mods. I'm not even sure EE-ATX shares the same mounting scheme.
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The FT02 shipped with a 240mm radiator mount, as well as the 120mm exhaust (didn't your RV03 have those two 120mm mounts at the HDD cage, too?).

I'm not sure if the FT05 ships with such a mount, but the bottom supports 120x3 if a user wanted to move from 180mm.

Also, there are some pretty legendary watercooling builds in these cases - 180mm offers a lot of radiator area (a 2x180x35 radiator offers the same area as a 4.5x120x35 radiator) and the performance/noise of 180mm fans is hard to beat.
Nope, at least not without mods. I'm not even sure EE-ATX shares the same mounting scheme.

I know my RV03 didn't support a rad larger than 120mm without modding and Jerry rigging. Possibly the ft does
     
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I know my RV03 didn't support a rad larger than 120mm without modding and Jerry rigging.
That's really weird! Couldn't you mount a 240mm radiator on the 2x120 fan mounts on the HDD cage, like these guys?
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The FT05/RV05/RVX01 have 120mm mounts that support most radiators up to 360mm.

The FT02/RV02 shipped with a 240mm radiator mounting bracket.
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That's really weird! Couldn't you mount a 240mm radiator on the 2x120 fan mounts on the HDD cage, like these guys?
The FT05/RV05/RVX01 have 120mm mounts that support most radiators up to 360mm.

The FT02/RV02 shipped with a 240mm radiator mounting bracket.

If you look at the pics, he has to zip-tie it in place. I don't think that should be necessary in 2016. I guess the FT does support it and my wording might have been a little misleading. Also, mounting it that way is not optimal for cooling and would create a whole lot of dust as your intake is greater than your exhaust. My point still stands that for the money, you can do better unless this fits your niche.
     
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