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I was really bummed with my Korean G4 as the bootloader is locked, the only models that have it unlocked are a handful of Euro H815 models. There is almost zero dev support for the G4 (unlocked models) because of this. I like to fiddle with my phone, I bought it, I should be able to do what I want with it. I picked it up on the day of launch here in Korea so my fault. Yes, I admit that I think my G4 is a great phone but without a doubt I will not be buying another LG phone unless I make sure the bootloader is not locked.
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I was really bummed with my Korean G4 as the bootloader is locked, the only models that have it unlocked are a handful of Euro H815 models. There is almost zero dev support for the G4 (unlocked models) because of this. I like to fiddle with my phone, I bought it, I should be able to do what I want with it. I picked it up on the day of launch here in Korea so my fault. Yes, I admit that I think my G4 is a great phone but without a doubt I will not be buying another LG phone unless I make sure the bootloader is not locked.

That's another issue I have with LG, I've had the G3, G2, the Viewty and a host of other LG phones and It never got that much dev suport plus any updates from LG themselves is not fast enough and support is sparse where I'm from. They make good products though!
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I seem to recall that it's up to the provider to send the updates?

Could've sworn there was an article that topic maybe early last year? I just woke up forgive me if I'm mistaken lol
    
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I seem to recall that it's up to the provider to send the updates?

Could've sworn there was an article that topic maybe early last year? I just woke up forgive me if I'm mistaken lol

The manufacturer (LG) makes the firmware update for the phone and gives it to the provider (ATT, etc.) who then in turn sends it out to their subscribers.
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The manufacturer (LG) makes the firmware update for the phone and gives it to the provider (ATT, etc.) who then in turn sends it out to their subscribers.

Right, I cant recall the title of the article but it was basically that they were not doing so. OEM would make the update then pass it to the provider who then should pass it to subscribers.

Though since I cant recall the article I found something similar, I cant be certain its the same article but it looks familiar...

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The big deal is that it's a Qualcomm in-house core. Which has always been much better than original ARM designs, like the 810 and 808 for example.

The Krait core was superior to the A15/A7 configuration in terms of power consumption and single-threaded performance.

The Kyro core looks to do the same thing with A57/A53 Configuration as well.

Instead of the traditional big.LITTLE config, it's gonna be a traditional Quad-Core that focuses on High-Performance cores with excellent single-threaded performance, which are also capable of extremely low power consumption when hibernating or downclocked.

Most apps and system processes are only gonna be using 1-2 cores. Therefore better performance with less cores will result in both a better experience, better thermals, and better power consumption. Qualcomm claims that the 820 is the successor to the 810.

No, the 820 is the true, long overdue successor to the 805/801, and the 810 has been merely filler while Qualcomm prepared the Kyro core. Welcome to the new era boys. We are at another age of total Qualcomm dominance.

Oh, I definitely understand the difference (hence the /s) I just don't see the practical difference for myself right now. I only very recently left the wireless industry, and have been swapping phones every 2mo for 3 years, and enjoyed the incremental upgrades available by doing so, and also having the practical experience with most of the brands. So I guess I am just burned out on release cycles.

I am sure there will be big numbers thrown around about how improved the 820 is, I've just become skeptical about the diminishing returns as we are looking at shaving milliseconds off the tasks we do on our devices.

I've had pretty much every flagship snapdragon derived phone released in Canada in the past three years, so I'm not just pulling this opinion out of thin air. I truly believe the G4 and 6p will take care of me for some time to come.
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I am personally so completely underwhelmed by this "module" concept for the G5, I'm sorry. Firstly, I have absolutely no interest in removable batteries. My Note 5 lasts plenty long enough to get me through a day's usage and with fast charging it is even less of a concern. Secondly, the modules seem to me to be the height of gimmickry. Are people really going to carry around these different modules (that really don't seem to me to add much functionality to begin with)? How long will it be before people start losing these modules? I mean, I applaud any attempt at fresh thinking and innovation but I feel like this is simply innovation for innovation sake and not really all that practical or even interesting. I even consider the S-Pen more gimmick than useful tbh...
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I am personally so completely underwhelmed by this "module" concept for the G5, I'm sorry. Firstly, I have absolutely no interest in removable batteries. My Note 5 lasts plenty long enough to get me through a day's usage and with fast charging it is even less of a concern. Secondly, the modules seem to me to be the height of gimmickry. Are people really going to carry around these different modules (that really don't seem to me to add much functionality to begin with)? How long will it be before people start losing these modules? I mean, I applaud any attempt at fresh thinking and innovation but I feel like this is simply innovation for innovation sake and not really all that practical or even interesting. I even consider the S-Pen more gimmick than useful tbh...

Yeah that is what I am thinking too. Here we have LG doing this for those 3 people that have very weird sense of progression and then you have Apple possibly removing audio jack. I too think it stupid. Smart Phones are Intergraded devices. Having modules is stupid. What will happen when you upgrade?
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Yeah that is what I am thinking too. Here we have LG doing this for those 3 people that have very weird sense of progression and then you have Apple possibly removing audio jack. I too think it stupid. Smart Phones are Intergraded devices. Having modules is stupid. What will happen when you upgrade?

Have the same form factor and the same module size.
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Yeah that is what I am thinking too. Here we have LG doing this for those 3 people that have very weird sense of progression and then you have Apple possibly removing audio jack. I too think it stupid. Smart Phones are Intergraded devices. Having modules is stupid. What will happen when you upgrade?

The status quo should not be confused with the ideal.

Modules are an excellent idea for smartphones. They allow for a single high end base phone to be made, and then customized to the individual's need. With some intelligent design all modules can share the same form factor and connections, meaning that any configuration will still be compatible with cases, screen protectors, and other accessories.

The conventional alternative is to make 50 different phone models, all with mostly common features, each with slightly different strengths and weaknesses. Various market factors combined with rushed and poorly thought out design result in 40 of those 50 models becoming immediately irrelevant, even to the niche they were designed to cater to. This is incredibly wasteful, and results in very few real choices for the customer and higher overall prices due to funding failed designs with the profits of successful ones.
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