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What are you talking about? G5 is just like any other phone if you want to treat it, "like any other phone". You don't have to take off anything to take pictures.

However, if you want a better camera, or to use any other accessory that's a module, then it makes all the sense in the world that you would have to turn off the phone. I don't see the big deal and I don't see how it's a minus.

No other phone has the option to re-configure your phone with different "parts"...

I agree that it is unique in that it is modular, but it does need refinements (parts are too big and it needs to be turned off - if you can add parts that are nice and thin and without shutting off the unit that would be sweet!). What's the point of bringing an extra or better camera part for a mobile phone when the fact is, you can bring a better camera (a point and shoot like the RX100) that is almost as big as the part you're bringing along and it'll definitely have better pictures than the module.

As for the DAC, that's also I feel (my own opinion of course) pointless / gimmicky (The dac inside most mobile phones are great now so just use a better music player) because I wouldn't want to kill my phone battery since I use it for work email and chat, navigation, sending text, and god forbid calling!!! biggrin.gif). If I wanted better audio my DAP is here together with my IEMS and my Cans!

Agree to disagree I guess! thumb.gif
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Then don't use the camera module. You don't have to use the modules. I don't understand where your criticism stems from.

That's precisely my point, why make the phone modular if the modules are cumbersome and not as easy as connect on the go? It would have been more nice if they made a separate camera module that is just click and go to the main phone (phone without a camera but with module becomes a high powered camera). Another module that would be nice is a fitness module that is completely not on the phone but the module activates it. Same with the dac module, it should actually be a dac / amp module that can drive IEMS and CANS of higher impedance. There are so many things they can do that should be completely separate on the phone! This is the first gen so i want to see the 2nd or 3rd gen of this concept... hopefully they nail it! Good try though!

Again this is just my opinion and you don't have to get upset... thumb.gif
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Assuming you aren't mixing up streaming and mirroring here...

I will give it a try. I use Nexus 4 for this for my Parents. I will compare IPS to OLED. What should I notice with the OLED screen? Display not turning off?
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So what you are saying even when the screen is Black OLED is still technically on using battery if the phone is ON but LCD can be turned off completely? What is the problem with that? GS7 with always on screen uses less than 1% per hour.

No. AMOLED cells produce their own light. There is no backlight. Thus, when mirroring the screen must be displaying what is being mirrored. Backlight cant be shut off since there is no backlight. On an LCD display there is the LCD and then there is a backlight. You cannot see what is on an LCD unless the backlight is on, that is where brightness comes from. When mirroring, the LCD can display what it needs to to be mirrored and shut off the backlight (which is the #1 power draw on a phone) so that it looks like the screen is completely off even though it is displaying something that then gets mirrored to an external screen.

The other way to do it would be through OS and driver level hooks in order to differentiate the screens so that the "mirroring" is actually more like treating the external as the primary screen and then turning off the main screen. That *should* be possible on both LCD and OLED, but would require operating system and driver coding to do it.
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Assuming you aren't mixing up streaming and mirroring here...

I'm using the "Screen Mirroring" feature on my Note 5 so I would assume that is mirroring, no? And yes I keep the screen on while I am inputting to the phone (such as searching for video on Onedrive to stream) but once I've started playing whatever I'm sending from my phone then I turn my screen off. That's where my confusion comes from I guess. If you are watching content from the phone on the mirrored device then why would you want the phone screen on? And if you are mirroring content like a game that requires input on the phone then you wouldn't WANT the screen off anyway, right? I'm really responding to the statement where you claimed AMOLED screens somehow preclude you from turning off the display while mirroring and that is just false in my experience with my Note 5, which has an AMOLED display.
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Meh. Keeping my G4.
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I agree that it is unique in that it is modular, but it does need refinements (parts are too big and it needs to be turned off - if you can add parts that are nice and thin and without shutting off the unit that would be sweet!). What's the point of bringing an extra or better camera part for a mobile phone when the fact is, you can bring a better camera (a point and shoot like the RX100) that is almost as big as the part you're bringing along and it'll definitely have better pictures than the module.
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That's precisely my point, why make the phone modular if the modules are cumbersome and not as easy as connect on the go? It would have been more nice if they made a separate camera module that is just click and go to the main phone (phone without a camera but with module becomes a high powered camera). Another module that would be nice is a fitness module that is completely not on the phone but the module activates it. Same with the dac module, it should actually be a dac / amp module that can drive IEMS and CANS of higher impedance. There are so many things they can do that should be completely separate on the phone! This is the first gen so i want to see the 2nd or 3rd gen of this concept... hopefully they nail it! Good try though!

Again this is just my opinion and you don't have to get upset... thumb.gif

I'm not upset. I'm merely pointing out that your critique doesn't seem to have a place right now. I'm actually quite critical of the Module concept myself. I feel it's entirely pointless, and while it's actually innovative, I feel it's not going to be the game-changing feature that LG markets it to be. I definitely want to get a G5 because it's one of the last of its kind to have an external storage options and removable battery. That's it. Otherwise I would get a Samsung.

Again, the majority of people who aren't going to use modules are still getting a great phone. As for why make the phone modular? Well, they solved the issue of "premium" build quality and removable options all in one go by making the bottom detacheble. Thus, making that bottom a "module" is actually just an added bonus. If you don't want to, don't use them. If you do want to use it, then use it. I don't really see why people would want to hot-swap modules all the time. Like really, why would you switch out a Camera module for a Hi-Fi module while you're doing something? That's just about the most hipster thing in the world.
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Not overly impressed with the G5, other than the "Magic Slot" modules. The G4 was such a beautiful phone with perfect design in regards to screen/body size and ratios (IMO obv) and the G5's departure from that design language is concerning to me. Though, I am hoping LG makes it relatively easy for 3rd parties to be creative in module designs for the magic slot. Seems like a philosophical meeting of concepts between current OEMs and the future of modular devices threatening that paradigm.

SD820/Adeno530 woo hoo bigger numbers /s I'll keep using my G4/6P for quite some time I am sure.
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SD820/Adeno530 woo hoo bigger numbers /s I'll keep using my G4/6P for quite some time I am sure.

The big deal is that it's a Qualcomm in-house core. Which has always been much better than original ARM designs, like the 810 and 808 for example.

The Krait core was superior to the A15/A7 configuration in terms of power consumption and single-threaded performance.

The Kyro core looks to do the same thing with A57/A53 Configuration as well.

Instead of the traditional big.LITTLE config, it's gonna be a traditional Quad-Core that focuses on High-Performance cores with excellent single-threaded performance, which are also capable of extremely low power consumption when hibernating or downclocked.

Most apps and system processes are only gonna be using 1-2 cores. Therefore better performance with less cores will result in both a better experience, better thermals, and better power consumption. Qualcomm claims that the 820 is the successor to the 810.

No, the 820 is the true, long overdue successor to the 805/801, and the 810 has been merely filler while Qualcomm prepared the Kyro core. Welcome to the new era boys. We are at another age of total Qualcomm dominance.
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I'm not upset. I'm merely pointing out that your critique doesn't seem to have a place right now. I'm actually quite critical of the Module concept myself. I feel it's entirely pointless, and while it's actually innovative, I feel it's not going to be the game-changing feature that LG markets it to be. I definitely want to get a G5 because it's one of the last of its kind to have an external storage options and removable battery. That's it. Otherwise I would get a Samsung.

Again, the majority of people who aren't going to use modules are still getting a great phone. As for why make the phone modular? Well, they solved the issue of "premium" build quality and removable options all in one go by making the bottom detacheble. Thus, making that bottom a "module" is actually just an added bonus. If you don't want to, don't use them. If you do want to use it, then use it. I don't really see why people would want to hot-swap modules all the time. Like really, why would you switch out a Camera module for a Hi-Fi module while you're doing something? That's just about the most hipster thing in the world.

What you're saying is basically the same thing I'm saying, the modules are useless or just a gimmick period (I just said it indirectly). So why would my critique not have a place but yours does? tongue.gif

I'm moving on... biggrin.gif
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