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I've heard a few people say that they don't love the A2+..... Do you like the bigger ones? The A5+.

The thing is I have a really nice set of JBL speakers + an amp + receiver, etc. It's in a storage locker in another state though..... I don't plan on seeing those for a while until I can afford the thousand to have them shipped out here.

I'm trying to diversify my stuff. I really need something ideal for my desk space which is somewhat limited. I could always do the stands.

Like I said not my cup of tea... they are small and with that so is the sound. But they are good for how big they are. Could be a little cheaper but you pay for that name...
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Hello,

I don't know the JBLs... but I always liked the sound of my Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (especially compared to my older Logitech Z-2300 system / now called the Z623?!)

They sounds very full with a lot of bass! (but not too much to sound woobly). And for 150$US + free shipping (in the USA) it's hard to beat I think!


Like others said, just go in a store and listen to some speakers with music that you like. Although, I'm not sure what's the point of buying studio monitors if you are a music fan. Those kind would probably sound "flat" compared to nice "normal" speakers.


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Although, I'm not sure what's the point of buying studio monitors if you are a music fan. Those kind would probably sound "flat" compared to nice "normal" speakers.

Disagree but everyone has their ears trained to enjoy music in different ways.
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post #14 of 21
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Around $250. Although, if I could spend $150 I'd be a lot happier. I read about the flatness in the studio monitors but I'm not clear on what that means. Does that mean it lacks bass? They will be backed to a wall. They would be about 15" from the wall on my desk.

The thing I like about the studio monitors is that most seem to be powered. I also like the size of the A2+. They are nice looking as well.

I agree that I should go and listen to them somewhere first and then buy online.

I've never heard a studio monitor before. Can you customize the sound on your PC?


You will likely find a lot of opinions about "home speakers" vs "studio monitors". Really the key difference as you already know is that studio monitors are traditionally powered (or active) speakers. Meaning they have the amplifier built in. Functionally they are usually designed to work better in a closer space since you often are sitting right next to the speakers. Beyond that some have a control EQ or baffle EQ that helps with a midbass bump often associated with setting a speaker directly on a desk surface.

In my honest opinion, beyond that studio monitors aren't any different to an equal quality "home" speaker. There are many studio monitors that have bad frequency response just like there are many home speakers that have very good frequency response. It all comes down to the quality of the speaker components and crossover. I would look at exactly what you need with this speakers. By that I mean figure out your budget, what size constraints you have, and whether a stand alone amplifier will work in your system. Sounds like you've set the budget around $200 and size looks like desktop is your preference.

I think there is a myth floating around that studio monitors have to have ruler flat frequency response to work. While it's not great to have it be all over the place in most cases it's really not a huge deal. The key for studio monitors is that a sound engineer needs to know how it sounds on his system and how that will translate to sounding on the average joe system. Sound engineers don't need to have "flat" monitors, they just need to be intimately familiar with how their monitors sound and how to mix/eq/etc the sound to make it sound good on other systems. For instance they could mix something and know that their system is a bit bass shy so that while they mix it they know that it will sound fuller on the average sound system out there. This is a very simplistic description but when you actually look at studio monitors and how they measure you start realizing they aren't flat at all in most cases.

All that said, I think there are some really good speakers you can snag for very cheap in the used market if you can manage an external amplifier. If you want an all in one package then studio monitors are great! As people have stated, the JBL LSR305 speakers are fantastic for their price. I also think the Rokkit RPG6's are great if you want a more bass centric sound. Yamaha makes the HSM50m which are fairly good too (though maybe outside your price range).

If I were you i'd head to your local Guitar Center and check out a few of the powered monitors in your price range to see what they sound like! Nothing beats hearing it for yourself. Just make sure you bring your own source (a good phone or MP3 player is fine) and use songs that are high quality and that you are very familiar with. They will usually let you plug your device in and give it a listen.

EDIT: In regards to customizing the sound of studio monitors. Often times no, there isn't anything special you can do to them that you can't with a house speaker. Sometimes a studio monitor will have small adjustments for things like the tweeter, woofer, or room EQ but most home speakers will be hooked up to an amplifier that allows tone control as well. You can use programs like roomEQ wizard to do all many of permanent EQ on your computer and tailor the sound how you like. It's not all that simple to figure out but its free and would EQ any sound device.
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post #15 of 21
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Although, I'm not sure what's the point of buying studio monitors if you are a music fan. Those kind would probably sound "flat" compared to nice "normal" speakers.

"Flat" not so much. "even response".

you want your processing unit coloring your sound if anything, not your drivers.
post #16 of 21
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"Flat" not so much. "even response".

you want your processing unit coloring your sound if anything, not your drivers.


While in theory this is certainly true, I'd venture to guess that if you put properly flat and neutral speakers into the average recording studio the engineer would likely not be able to accurately mix that to translate properly to other systems. There are so many extremely popular studio monitors that have inaccurate response but the engineers are used to the sound and know how to cope with their anomalies. Obviously this is a generalization as i'm certain there are many high end studios that do actually have very flat and accurate speakers. I just haven't been all that blown away by the measurements i've seen of extremely common speakers like the Yamaha NS10's and the like.

I have a pair of Yamaha HS50m's sitting on my work desk right now and they sound great but certainly not all that much flatter than a good quality "home" speaker in my honest opinion. There do seem to be many more variances in the home speaker market though and that i will give you. Studio monitors on the whole tend to try and aim for a flatter response just as there are home speakers that i think do well in that regard.
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So I went to Guitarcenter today. I have to say the studio monitors were really nice. There was one set of monitors that were called M-audio BX5s. They put out a lot of bass. Very crisp and clear sounding. Had really nice aesthetics. Perfect size for my desk. Were a bit pricey but I still want them.

I'm still not really clear on what flat means but these will do the job for me. Guy working there said I need something called an interface in order to hook them up to my computer.

Now I need to sniff out a deal on some.
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So I went to Guitarcenter today. I have to say the studio monitors were really nice. There was one set of monitors that were called M-audio BX5s. They put out a lot of bass. Very crisp and clear sounding. Had really nice aesthetics. Perfect size for my desk. Were a bit pricey but I still want them.

I'm still not really clear on what flat means but these will do the job for me. Guy working there said I need something called an interface in order to hook them up to my computer.

Now I need to sniff out a deal on some.

The interface he means is more for the recording side but some of them are quite nice. Allowing you to use a non USB mic and running high powered headphones out of it... but a simple dac will do as well. even going out directly of the computer will do as well but that would defeat the point.
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The interface he means is more for the recording side but some of them are quite nice. Allowing you to use a non USB mic and running high powered headphones out of it... but a simple dac will do as well. even going out directly of the computer will do as well but that would defeat the point.

I don't plan to record or use a mic.

What would I be losing going out right from my computer. I prefer to keep it simple and not spend money on stuff I don't need.

Thanks bud.
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I don't plan to record or use a mic.

What would I be losing going out right from my computer. I prefer to keep it simple and not spend money on stuff I don't need.

Thanks bud.

Depending on the quality of your built in audio you will either have no problem or most likely have some interference along with lackluster audio quality.
Even with cheap options like Amazon Link. But don't take me on dac recomendativos. You could probably make another thread asking for recommendations, just make sure to state the speakers there you plan on getting and give them a budget. There are tons of dacs out there.

But if you want to try your luck just get a 3.5mm to dual 1/4 inch and try the speakers out directly out of the pc.
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