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Hello, now i am convinced TN suits for my use (owned XL2420T then purchased XL2420G, almost same model with G-Sync then eventually i ve bought Z35, VA panel, 35 inches, 200 hz, G-Sync...)
I am looking for the best in response time/input lag
I am quite torn between keep continuing with G-Sync TN or picking non G-Sync since i think i like blur reduction (its obvious after a fair comparison with Z35 G-Sync/Benql XL2420T)

- LG 24M77, 144 hz, 1080p, ~280 eur

- Benq XL2411Z, 144 hz, 1080p, ~280 eur

- New XB241H (same model as XB240H but wit new base design) G-Sync, 1080p ~500/550 eur

- Dell something in 27 inches, 1440p, 144 hz, G-Sync, ~800 eur

I think it will definitely eliminate that Dell screen monitor because of price, 800 its overpriced
Yes i like G-Sync for eliminating tearing/stuttering/input lag but they are still there although its minimal
I prefer ULMB/Blur reduction overall: image looks incredibly crisp and sharp
My two favorites are the LG and Benq one, LG has better image quality overall but Benq should have better blur reduction utility, isn't it?
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The XL2411Z has terrible colours and contrast, the 27" Dell S2716DG uses a very grainy matte coating, has meh colours (for a TN) and suffers from pixel inversion, and the Acer has not been reviewed.

The LG 24GM77 is the only 144hz TN panel with a light-ish matte coating and good colours, and it offers the same gaming performance as the other best options. LG uses their own TN so it's unlikely anyone else is going to rival the LG until they stop using AUO TN panels.
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Thanks
Damn it, i missed LG's deal on Amazon, now price has increased up to 350/400 eur
There is no way i ll pay so much for non G-Sync and TN screen monitor
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Originally Posted by MenacingTuba View Post

The XL2411Z has terrible colours and contrast, the 27" Dell S2716DG uses a very grainy matte coating, has meh colours (for a TN) and suffers from pixel inversion, and the Acer has not been reviewed.

The LG 24GM77 is the only 144hz TN panel with a light-ish matte coating and good colours, and it offers the same gaming performance as the other best options. LG uses their own TN so it's unlikely anyone else is going to rival the LG until they stop using AUO TN panels.

According to this: http://display-corner.epfl.ch/index.php/LG_24GM77 the LG does NOT use it's own panel and instead shares the same panel as every other 24 inch 144Hz TN panel. Of course I don't know how legit that website is and I've never taken apart a 24GM77 myself, but just something to consider.
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The XL2411Z has pretty nice colors and contrast if you set contrast to 70-80 (up from 50) and individual color channels to 60-70, down from 100. (this is needed to make the 80 contrast not crush the bright color spectrum, easy to set up with a color test image). Looks nearly as good as my NEC EA231WMi!

At 50 contrast it looks super bad/washed out. Not sure why they'd ship it looking that bad.

The blur reduction is nice, just make sure you get one with v2 firmware or newer, if you want to customize the blur reduction settings. (via blur busters strobe utility)

I don't know anything about the LG so not sure how the blur reduction is on that.
Edited by Tivan - 2/24/16 at 7:08pm
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According to this: http://display-corner.epfl.ch/index.php/LG_24GM77 the LG does NOT use it's own panel and instead shares the same panel as every other 24 inch 144Hz TN panel. Of course I don't know how legit that website is and I've never taken apart a 24GM77 myself, but just something to consider.

Interesting since Toms Hardware claims it uses an 8 Bit LG panel. If LG is using AUO panels they must be using the better panels from the batches while BenQ puts the bad ones with lower contrast in their XL2411Z and XL2430T. It's a shame Display Corner focuses so much on tiny pixel response time differences but mostly ignores image quality.
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Worst advice I've seen on a monitor forum this year. Increasing BenQ monitors contrast causes severe colour bleaching and reducing the RGB values drastically reduces the contrast and screws up the gamma on a panel which already has low contrast and screwed up gamma. The only way to get semi-decent performance out of the XL2411Z is via calibration with an accurate colorimeter to fix up the screwed up gamma:

http://www.digitalversus.com/lcd-monitor/xl2411z-p17975/test.html

Unless you can prove that your "fix" is good with an accurate colorimeter people will dismiss your posts.
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27" Dell S2716DG is easily one of top 5 Gaming TN panels on the market. The colors are only meh if you don't calibrate it properly.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2716dg.htm

You want advice about other monitors check out http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
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http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2716dg.htm

You want advice about other monitors check out http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/


If you read German check this site for reviews. Easily best reviews out there imo http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/testberichte.html
    
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If you read German check this site for reviews. Easily best reviews out there imo http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/testberichte.html

They are good too. They also have an English option. I just prefer the whole review on a single page.
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