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@Veky

I've added ROM pack for Fury Nitro in OP with mods I did for other Fiji cards.

Whilst viewing the file you attached I noticed you have a very new ROM on card, ROM date: 20/07/16 , version number is also later than the ones I have for Fury Nitro STD/OC editions cards. Would you mind sharing both switch positions stock ROMs? I will then update the Fury Nitro OC ROMs I made for OP, cheers.
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On Fury X no issue modding usTemperatureLimitVrVddc in PowerPlay. I modded it from 105°C up to 120°C and also down to 55°C. I flashed each mod ROM, switched PC off and powered up, went into Win 7 Pro x64 no issue, reset driver to factory defaults and then took an AIDA64 registers dump to confirm ROM value had taken, I'm currently on Crimson v16.9.2 WHQL.

Stock Fury X is 105°C for VDDC & MVDD VR (69h).

ati-GCKSMCIND-0003F774 = 69006900

In below the 78 is denoting 120°C.

ati-GCKSMCIND-0003F774 = 78006900

In below the 37 is denoting 55°C.

ati-GCKSMCIND-0003F774 = 37006900

To see if the PowerPlay VR temp limit value does have an effect I used the 55°C rom. In image below the clock bounce you see in MSI AB is due to Power Efficiency off in driver, note the flat line when 3DM FS is running and VR temp 50°C in HWiNFO.





As soon as GPU VRM temp hit 56°C then you'll see the clocks drop in MSI AB in image below.





So as Nano has 98°C at stock that's why at 99°C you see the dips, as to the mod ROM not working on Nano I can only assume the driver is not allowing the increased VR temp limit we're placing in PowerPlay.
Edited by gupsterg - 10/9/16 at 8:19am
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@Veky

I've added ROM pack for Fury Nitro in OP with mods I did for other Fiji cards.

Whilst viewing the file you attached I noticed you have a very new ROM on card, ROM date: 20/07/16 , version number is also later than the ones I have for Fury Nitro STD/OC editions cards. Would you mind sharing both switch positions stock ROMs? I will then update the Fury Nitro OC ROMs I made for OP, cheers.

Thank you very much smile.gif
I will try it later,i have to "copy" all modded setting from my current modded stock ROM.
Sure,here it is FuryBIOS2.zip 104k .zip file , I am glad i can help.
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I will make you ROM pack based on your newer ROMs, +rep for share smile.gif .
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@gupsterg Edited my 64CU Strix bios and the throttling is gone. I upped the power limits TDC 325A (stock is 300A) and MPDL 325 W (216 stock), but i kept to TDP at stock 270 W. I also upped the DPM 7 to 1050MHz which resulted in a new VID of 1.25V (stock was 1.20V). I understand what TDC and MPDL mean and do, but what is exactly the TDP? Is it limiting the gpu dissipated power to that value, so that the cooler on the card can cope with the heat?
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Nice to read you've fixed the throttling smile.gif .

Why your DPM 7 has gone from 1.20V to 1.25V is due to increasing GPU clock and not setting VID manually.

When a DPM VID is left "auto calculate" (denoted by 6528x) and we:-

i) increase GPU clock, VID will increase based on the GPU clock.
ii) decrease GPU clock VID will decrease based on the GPU clock.

So in Fiji bios editor > PowerPlay > DPM 7 > VID > enter VID you require (1.20V = 1200).

How I understand it is the TDP value keeps GPU within that TDP, as we have state by that value in ROM how much W cooler can dissipate.
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Just got a fury x and the asic is very good the voltage is very low too but its a bad OC cant even get 1090mhz core on stock volts
Edited by yuri ADc - 10/9/16 at 10:12am
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Nice to read you've fixed the throttling smile.gif .

Why your DPM 7 has gone from 1.20V to 1.25V is due to increasing GPU clock and not setting VID manually.

When a DPM VID is left "auto calculate" (denoted by 6528x) and we:-

i) increase GPU clock, VID will increase based on the GPU clock.
ii) decrease GPU clock VID will decrease based on the GPU clock.

So in Fiji bios editor > PowerPlay > DPM 7 > VID > enter VID you require (1.20V = 1200).

How I understand it is the TDP value keeps GPU within that TDP, as we have state by that value in ROM how much W cooler can dissipate.

I think I will up the TDP to 300W, the air cooler on the Strix is not the best... :/ From what I have read on this thread (I spent several hours reading through it) 1.25V is already a little bit on the high side for 1050MHz. I willforce it to 1200mV and up it if I find that it is too low to keep the card fully stable 1050Mhz. I also found out that on my card at 1200mV the vdroop is higher than at 1250mV (32.5 vs 25). I will report back.

EDIT:
- upped TDP to 300W;
- set target temp to 60ºC instead of 70ºC (cooler is silent!)
- set HBM overdrive limit to 675MHz
- played around with the gpu VID, it is only stable through firestrike at 1250mV (tried with 1200 and 1225). Funny thing is that this thing needs 1250mV to do 1050MHz... I did not try anything higher through firestrike, but I managed to run Geekbench 4 compute at 1190MHz@1250mV (80% fan speed, if gpu temp goes above 38ºC it fails the test) which gave me a score of 162384.
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/compute/140223

I will start playing with HBM OC later on, 545.45MHz would be cool!
Edited by u3a6 - 10/9/16 at 12:09pm
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@MickyPearce

On Fury X no issue modding usTemperatureLimitVrVddc in PowerPlay. I modded it from 105°C up to 120°C and also down to 55°C. I flashed each mod ROM, switched PC off and powered up, went into Win 7 Pro x64 no issue, reset driver to factory defaults and then took an AIDA64 registers dump to confirm ROM value had taken, I'm currently on Crimson v16.9.2 WHQL.

Stock Fury X is 105°C for VDDC & MVDD VR (69h).

ati-GCKSMCIND-0003F774 = 69006900

In below the 78 is denoting 120°C.

ati-GCKSMCIND-0003F774 = 78006900

In below the 37 is denoting 55°C.

ati-GCKSMCIND-0003F774 = 37006900

To see if the PowerPlay VR temp limit value does have an effect I used the 55°C rom. In image below the clock bounce you see in MSI AB is due to Power Efficiency off in driver, note the flat line when 3DM FS is running and VR temp 50°C in HWiNFO.





As soon as GPU VRM temp hit 56°C then you'll see the clocks drop in MSI AB in image below.





So as Nano has 98°C at stock that's why at 99°C you see the dips, as to the mod ROM not working on Nano I can only assume the driver is not allowing the increased VR temp limit we're placing in PowerPlay.

Cheers for the investigating! I flashed again and this time it held - but in HWinfo the VR VDDC and VRM VDD temps stop updating at 100 degrees then after 30 seconds or so the system totally powers off (hardware temp protection no doubt).

I've decided to try my hand at something else since getting the Nano to hold 1000mhz in Valley or Unity based games 4K is damn near impossible even with 1.15v undervolt due to the sheer power being drawn (210w on average at 4K 0xAA).

Currently trying to find the sweet spot for the Nano - Right now at 950mhz and just 1.075v (vdroop from 1.087 in bios) and 550mhz with timing mod. FPS dropped from 50 to 48 in the opening scene in Valley at my stress testing settings but get this - temps are down from 88 core and 99 VRM throttling to 911 and 874 mhz every few seconds with a average power consumption of 214w as reported in HWinfo -> Down to 172w reported after 20 minutes, 77 degrees core and just 82 degrees on the VRM - no throttling whatsoever.

Thats a 24% reduction in power consumption for just a 5.2% drop in performance :O

Others have said it before but the full Fiji GPU appears to have been really suited for this 950mhz range - AMD appear to have pumped MASSIVE amounts of voltage into these things to get it running at 1000mhz for what I guess is marketing purposes.

Keep in mind - Stress testing Valley at 4K with 0xAA is the hardest workout you can put the Fiji GPU under as far as power draw and current are concerned. Heaven is consistently around 20w and 15-20A lower. Only 4K Unity engine games like Firewatch 0xAA hit the shaders and ROPs as hard as Valley from my extensive analysis of many, many games.

In other words - at these settings the R9 Nano is considerably more efficient and faster than even AMD's next gen RX 480 smile.gif God bless the mighty full Fiji chip!
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With my FuryX's I run them at 1150/550 with both Power limit and Voltage set to mx in Afterburner.  What would flashing my BIOS do for me?  Both cards idle at 23-25 and when I game run mid 30's to 40oC.  I did change out the stock water cooling for EKWB water blocks.

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