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On mobile at present, will view later defo mate smile.gif , thanks for share as always smile.gif .

I gotta try your new method as well, I think you should post it in Fiji bios mod as it may help another or be something for others to try smile.gif .
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I promise I will get to it but I need a better graph. Would be easier I If had not gotten rid of both my tablets with stylus's. mad.gif
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Overclockers Dream(c)(tm) biggrin.gif

IMO that "presentation comment" is being thrown out of context.

Firstly ref PCB design on Fury/X/Nano is stonking IMO, great for OC'ing.

Secondly air cooler on Fury and AIO on Fury X is pretty darn good. Nano cooler is what it is due to size factor but still good IMO.

Thirdly I believe Fiji on perf.per watt is pretty good.

Just as an example I asked on Bit-Tech about their RX 480 review, in the power consumption testing they load cards with Valley @1440P, the total system draw with Fury X was 50% more than RX 480 and Fury X scored 50% more in bench. As total system draw from wall plug was used bare in mind some inaccuracy to use that result as I have in context of perf.per watt.

I also asked W1zzard on TPU about their perf.per watt data, due to time constraints they will take average power usage with Metro: Last light at 1080P loading each card and apply that 1 result per card to all scenarios shown in perf.per watt page. This could well be inaccurate method, you could have a game/res maxing RX 480 GPU = high'ish power use and Fury X not being taxed as much (ie not sticking to max GPU clock) = lower power use than x test.

I would luv it if there was a review where they pitted RX 480 vs Fiji and tested each game for perf.per watt. Perhaps there is one and I've not seen it?
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Yeah this aspect sucks on Fiji sadsmiley.gif .

I have tried a few different methods of applying voltage with combination of PowerPlay VID and VRM controller offset and does not help sadsmiley.gif . It does not matter what PL or driver options we set, at x voltage increase a card will scale negatively on performance, regardless if at stock clocks or OC clocks sadsmiley.gif . At what voltage a card starts negatively scaling on performance with voltage increase depends on each card from 7 I've had sadsmiley.gif .

Gupstreg here's the results with the new bios.

1100Mhz. @ 0 offset

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11394426
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

1125Mhz @ 24mv offset

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11394473
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

1165Mhz @ +75mv

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11394405
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I'm not showing neg. scaling with new Bios.

75mv offset is my max setting in Sapphire Trixx right now.
will this bios be good for all fijis? Even +75 is a good start since most samples were showing negative scaling at around the 50 mark. What have you done with this bios to be different?

Edit. Your graphics score improved by about 2% yet your core clock increased 6%. Why so low? Or is that the start of negative scaling we are seeing occur in.
Edited by Alastair - 7/8/16 at 2:00am
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will this bios be good for all fijis? Even +75 is a good start since most samples were showing negative scaling at around the 50 mark. What have you done with this bios to be different?

Not a Bois per se. Just a method of finding correct VID setting for the bios per DPM to help reduce current draw and leakage. Might not help everyone.
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Edit. Your graphics score improved by about 2% yet your core clock increased 6%. Why so low? Or is that the start of negative scaling we are seeing occur in.

Yes not huge gains. Look at the temperatures though. Way too high because I'm on the stock Nano air cooler, but lower than it would be (if I recall) with stock Bios. High temperature = High leakage. Better cooling might help. PL values are also set lower than optimal due to temperature problems. I get higher scores with these turned up as well.

It's a little complex to explain it, but easy to use. I'm typing one handed at the moment because of old shoulder injury. (stupid rain).
Edited by bluezone - 7/8/16 at 12:17pm
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Okay here is a run of 3DM 11 with a version of my modded Bios but optimized using same method @ and for 1125.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11396553 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

notice the lower temperatures and lower wattage with higher graphics score compared to un-optimized.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11394473 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

That's a 2.2% increase in frequency for 2% increase in graphics score.

Cheers. smile.gif
Edited by bluezone - 7/8/16 at 4:26pm
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Cheers for share of data smile.gif .

I reckon the 1165 +75mV run you maybe getting into negative scaling, as I said in PMs I'm not to familiar with 3DM11 scores, I'll try and run some at same clocks as your tests.

I've only ever done 2 runs of 3DM11 @ 1145/545, here is compare with your 1165/500.

The optimised 1125 is seeming like better than unoptimised 1125, have you checked to see the boost your seeing is not just run to run variance?
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Cheers for share of data smile.gif .

I've completed multiple runs to be sure

I reckon the 1165 +75mV run you maybe getting into negative scaling, as I said in PMs I'm not to familiar with 3DM11 scores, I'll try and run some at same clocks as your tests.

I've only ever done 2 runs of 3DM11 @ 1145/545, here is compare with your 1165/500.

I've completed multi runs as I go just to be safe and is required to make this work. smile.gif
The optimised 1125 is seeming like better than unoptimised 1125, have you checked to see the boost your seeing is not just run to run variance?

It is slight negative scaling, but it's just as much due to insufficient voltage. 1.297 volts is entered in DPM7 to make equivalent to +72mv.bigeyedsmiley.png I've completed some more testing and have selected a lower optimum frequency for voltage available. Using that frequency and equivalent to +72 voltage offset in bios.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11396929
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11396918 Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

This is 4.5% increase in frequency over 1100Mhz. and only 2.3% increase in graphics score. Compared to optimum every day bios. Which was previously posted.
e.g.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/11394426

I'm maxed on voltage so I cannot do anything more.

Cheers smile.gif
Edited by bluezone - 7/8/16 at 9:03pm
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Hi guys looking at the gigabyte fury oc, is this a good card? Can I install a universal water block on it?
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Hi guys looking at the gigabyte fury oc, is this a good card? Can I install a universal water block on it?
your better off asking the Fiji owners thread. However I can to you now you can't put a universal block on it due to the HBM stacks.
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