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I think the only people that haven't upgraded their top of the line card to the newest top of the line card are just waiting for the end of the 28nm GPU era (which this will be).

You do realize that we tech enthusiasts (and even here many people are still on 680s, 780s, 780 Tis, 290Xes and 7970s) are a small, tiny minority? tongue.gif

I mean no disrespect or dissing on people who do upgrade like that. I see it as misusing money, but if you have it and it gives you joy, then do it. More power to you, especially since a lot of those same people are also quite knowledgeable on hardware. But ... some sort of reality check must happen.
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You do realize that we tech enthusiasts (and even here many people are still on 680s, 780s, 780 Tis, 290Xes and 7970s) are a small, tiny minority? tongue.gif

I mean no disrespect or dissing on people who do upgrade like that. I see it as misusing money, but if you have it and it gives you joy, then do it. More power to you, especially since a lot of those same people are also quite knowledgeable on hardware. But ... some sort of reality check must happen.

I do and I've always believed that hanging onto cards for multiple generations is actually worse than just upgrading a top of the line card each generation.
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I do and I've always believed that hanging onto cards for multiple generations is actually worse than just upgrading a top of the line card each generation.

You are free to believe whatever you wish mate.
Unless you can sell them at high prices ... I do not see how that may actually be the case. And this is not the landscape (admittedly in my poor but PC Gaming Land country) I am used to seeing.

Will try it for once with Polaris. However I expect to be a bad experiment for me. Financially that is.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_980_Ti_Matrix/23.html

Looks like the 780 Ti still holds up pretty well. 3 GB is a bit lacking though but then again so is 4 GB.
DX11 tests. The context of this topic is "DX12 and asynchronous shading".
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You are free to believe whatever you wish mate.
Unless you can sell them at high prices ... I do not see how that may actually be the case. And this is not the landscape (admittedly in my poor but PC Gaming Land country) I am used to seeing.

Will try it for once with Polaris. However I expect to be a bad experiment for me. Financially that is.

Really? Say you had a 780 and bought it for the $650 in May 2013 or a 680 for $500 in March 2012. In Sept. 2014 the $330 GTX 970 launches and crushes both of those. Now you have to sell your card at bottom of the barrel prices and there's not many people who want to buy a card that old. GPU performance increases pretty drastically each generation compared to CPU performance so splurging on a top card to hold onto for generations just does not make sense when you can buy mid-range and most likely upgrade each generation.
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I do and I've always believed that hanging onto cards for multiple generations is actually worse than just upgrading a top of the line card each generation.
That is only the case when you buy nVidia.
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I do and I've always believed that hanging onto cards for multiple generations is actually worse than just upgrading a top of the line card each generation.
That is only the case when you buy nVidia.
yes I agree AMD cards age well while Nvidia cards as soon as next gen releases go down the tubes and also AMD cards hold theyre value better and that is facts because once again AMD cards get better with age the HD 7970 has gained a whopping 30% or more performance since release same for the 290x and so on can you say that about a GTX 980 or 780 TI NO when they get 5% or so advancement in performance and are all but abandoned when next gen releases on Nvidia side AMD actively support theyre cards for many generations in drivers and game optimization but not Nvidia.

This is why the AMD R9 290 / 290x and 390 / 390x have gained so much performance and have climbed the ranks on Nvidia cards and are often hitting above theyre belt in non biased games.
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Look at the latest SteamVR benchmark. With the exception of a few overclocked GTX 780 Ti cards, most of Nvidia’s high-end GTX 700 series graphics cards couldn’t reach the “ready” status. GeForce GTX Titan, 780 Ti and 780 cards that were selling for $500, $700 and even $1000 just a couple of years ago can’t keep up with the R9 290X and 290... So yeah...
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Really? Say you had a 780 and bought it for the $650 in May 2013 or a 680 for $500 in March 2012. In Sept. 2014 the $330 GTX 970 launches and crushes both of those. Now you have to sell your card at bottom of the barrel prices and there's not many people who want to buy a card that old. GPU performance increases pretty drastically each generation compared to CPU performance so splurging on a top card to hold onto for generations just does not make sense when you can buy mid-range and most likely upgrade each generation.

The costs are much higher in Bulgaria. So I would be paying price premiums for cards with terrible price/performance metrics.

I give my old GTX 760 a lot of crap, but to be fair it still games REALLY well at 1080P. Always above a console either in IQ or in FPS (or both), whilst keeping PC Gaming heavy hitter pros.

And the old 5770 lasted me 6 years of playing even new AAA games as well (too bad most AAA games are bad though frown.gif )
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yes I agree AMD cards age well while Nvidia cards as soon as next gen releases go down the tubes and also AMD cards hold theyre value better and that is facts because once again AMD cards get better with age the HD 7970 has gained a whopping 30% or more performance since release same for the 290x and so on can you say that about a GTX 980 or 780 TI NO when they get 5% or so advancement in performance and are all but abandoned when next gen releases on Nvidia side AMD actively support theyre cards for many generations in drivers and game optimization but not Nvidia.

This is why the AMD R9 290 / 290x and 390 / 390x have gained so much performance and have climbed the ranks on Nvidia cards and are often hitting above theyre belt in non biased games.

I don't think that better/worse support is the cause for this phenomenon. My interpretation is that it is due to the fact that AMD tries to build for future technology and Nvidia tries to max performance here and now. My guess would be that AMD cards are usually not utilized to their full potential at release because of hardware optimization for things to come, while Nvidia cards are already more or less min/maxed at launch.
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